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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

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  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    What are mewbie and AD called these days?


    Discretion is the better part of valour!
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    zagubov wrote: »
    Sorry StevieJ, I didn't answer your question. I'm guessing it's the Wall Street Crash. damaging nutrition and food supplies to infants/pregnant women/young mothers.

    Not really.
    It's simply a statistical phenomenon.
    Clearly as you get older you get more and more likely to die, but also as you get closer and closer to 100 the more likely it is you will make 100.
    82-83 is simply the statistical nadir of being relatively old and therefore quite likely to die but also still quite a long way away from 100.
    The likelihood of reaching 100 is a probability curve which currently decreases slowly to 82-83 and then rises fairly rapidly, to obviously peak at near 100% at 99.999 years old
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    Not really.
    The likelihood of reaching 100 is a probability curve which currently decreases slowly to 82-83 and then rises fairly rapidly, to obviously peak at near 100% at 99.999 years old


    So, are you saying that if you make it to 83 there's a good chance of you making 100?
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,938 Forumite
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    edited 29 August 2011 at 10:40PM
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    Not really.
    It's simply a statistical phenomenon.
    Clearly as you get older you get more and more likely to die, but also as you get closer and closer to 100 the more likely it is you will make 100.
    82-83 is simply the statistical nadir of being relatively old and therefore quite likely to die but also still quite a long way away from 100.
    The likelihood of reaching 100 is a probability curve which currently decreases slowly to 82-83 and then rises fairly rapidly, to obviously peak at near 100% at 99.999 years old

    It could be statistical but there's growing evidence that your longevity is linked to your mothers nutrition and your own early nutrition

    People born in the war during rationing are supposed (well, expected) to be long-lived nowadays as their diet was optimised by the Ministry of Food using linear programming (I remember my maths teacher claiming that won the war for us).

    Later inventions like cars and fridges probably shortened lifespans by altering exercise levels. Kids growing up now are regarded as being more committed couch-potatoes with modest life expectancies, and many recent news article s have shared this worry.

    I've heard your chances of surviving one more year don't fall below 50/50 until you're about 100. And that the day you're born is the day you're most likely to die.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    It could be statistical but there's growing evidence that your longevity is linked to your mothers nutrition and your own early nutrition


    That's leaving aside genetic influences.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Evening all.

    Good to see you back tre!

    I came on to post that I won't be around for several weeks (except for an occasional lurk) as I've got a big contract to do and juggle and fit in hours that I don't work elsewhere. As I do still need to do things like sleep, eat, shower and maintain a relationship with my family, I'm afraid MSE will be on the back burner for a while. I hope to get back to my normal posting routine the end of Sept or early Oct.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    As a single person, without debt, I don't see any Govt money being spent on me.... and that's why I've never been interested to vote for any of them.

    Roads, street lighting, law 'n' order, legal system, regulation of banks, utilities, pharma etc, defense, public transport, provision and regulation of a monetary system.

    I do agree that despite my list, low paid workers without kids get a very raw deal from the tax system. I think it's a disgrace that your taxes are used to pay for welfare for the middle classes. It brings us back to the argument about child benefit for 40% rate taxpayers. You, as a net taxpayer most likely, shouldn't be paying benefits to the top 5% of income earners!
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Evening all.

    Good to see you back tre!

    I came on to post that I won't be around for several weeks (except for an occasional lurk) as I've got a big contract to do and juggle and fit in hours that I don't work elsewhere. As I do still need to do things like sleep, eat, shower and maintain a relationship with my family, I'm afraid MSE will be on the back burner for a while. I hope to get back to my normal posting routine the end of Sept or early Oct.


    Take care. we'll miss you. :)
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,938 Forumite
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    edited 29 August 2011 at 11:02PM
    treliac wrote: »
    That's leaving aside genetic influences.

    Right enough. The world' oldest woman apparently never had a day's sickness in her life but drank, ate 1 kg of chocolate per week and smoked (but clearly had the genes to cope with it). I regret saying this because everybody claims to have a Uncle Bert who smoked 80 woodbine a day and live to 102, but people with genes for long life don't have any lessons to teach us or offer us much insight into good habits.

    There are all sorts of funny links between genes and health. There's thought to be a link between earwax texture and risk of breast cancer for example.

    I was also intrigued that people with certain diseases live longer than healthy people -Parkinson's for example.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
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