Innocent Smoothies have lost their innocence - weights and measures trickery ...

2sides2everystory

Ehm ... who says there's no trouble in those pubs? The police officers? The publican? You?

Rainy-Days

I recall Shloer doing something similar a while back going from a one litre bottle down to a 750ml but charging the same. I just stopped buying it!

sarahg1969

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

Also, as a bit of a greenie I feel really guilty about wasting food so I'd prefer to just buy the amount that I will use

As a bit of a greenie, you must also appreciate that people who DO prefer the bigger cartons will now have more cartons to throw away. 4 75cl cartons are more wasteful than 3 1l cartons.

I wonder if it's greener to possibly waste 25cl of smoothie or to throw away more packaging?

k3lvc

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Ehm ... who says there's no trouble in those pubs? The police officers? The publican? You?

OK - Time out - when you've stopped playing the victim on everything come back and engage in sensible conversation

2sides2everystory

Playing the victim? I thought I was playing the persecutor and attempting to rescue the consumerist viewpoint !

You haven't seen me seeking any rescue have you? I pulled myself out the moment I picked up the pack and thought hello hello hello whats goin' on 'ere then and recognised that the dodgy Denmark pack had now appeared on UK shelves. Now I am venting so that others may not fall in.

So dream on k3 with your dodgy first level psycho-babble analysis.

Why haven't you engaged with my quotation of the two elements of the relevant law that I contend show that Innocent/Sainsburys are not complying with it? You can find it here on the internet. Have a good read then come back and argue the point properly.

k3lvc

Now you've edited your post #30 to be even more ranty :T

But the whole issue is that it's not a 'dodgy Denmark pack' and your use of quoting irrelevant legislation is laughable.


Scenario 1 - Innocent increase price of 1ltr from £1 to £1.25 - sales drop (shoppers moan about inflation, retailers delist due to lower sales, viscious circle of decline begins)


Scenario 2 - Innocent drop size from 1ltr to 750ml utilising existing packaging format to save costs - value stabilised, profit increased slightly to allow investment in promotions and NPD - shoppers moan about it all being a big con/scam/rip off/illegal etc etc etc


What's your scenario that saves the world in the current economic situation where, whether you like caveat emptor or not, the shopper has the final say ?

And for the record I'm genuinely interested as I set the global pricing strategy for one of the nasty multinationals (incorporating shopper research, independent legal advice, government guidelines etc etc) hence my interest and knowledge

MamaMoo_2

Nothing highlighted the reduced carton size.... Except, well, the reduced carton size, and the '1L' sign changing to '750ml' on both the SEL and the packaging. No company that I know of has ever slapped the words "Hey! Look! We've reduced our pack sizes and not our prices" all over their stuff.
Asda used to sell a box of 8 Mars ice creams for £2. Now it's 6 for £2. Nowhere does it say "Less ice cream! Same price!" on it, but common sense told me, when I picked up the pack, that it was both smaller and lighter, and also only contained 6 ice creams. I didn't whinge and moan, I bought my husband some different ice cream instead. Amazing.

k3lvc

MamaMoo wrote: »

I didn't whinge and moan, I bought my husband some different ice cream instead. Amazing.

And that is exactly what happens in real life and what drives behavioural change in manufacturers/retailers. Not shouting claiming illegality or fraud or scam.

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2sides2everystory

Tell us why the CPR legislation is irrelevant, k3. Tell us

(a) What is wrong about the contention that the way this new carton was introduced is unfair as it materially distorts or is likely to materially distort the economic behaviour of the average consumer with regard to the product.

(b) What is wrong with the contention that the subsitution of the smaller size in this improper way constitutes a misleading action which is also prohibited under paragraph 5 of PART 2 of CPRs

You and I and that ultra clever Mamamoo have already marked ourselves out as above average consumers because it didn't fool us. What about average consumers? Do you think that more or less than 5 out of ten if interviewed moments after they had put one of these cartons in their trolley would be able to answer the following questions correctly:

1. What volume of contents are in this carton? (or do you know its size?)
2. If you have bought Innocent Smoothies in previous months, did you know the carton was bigger, smaller or the same as before?

FATBALLZ

scotsman4th wrote: »

Coco pops dropped to 295g from 325g but the price remained the same recently.

Supermarkets are trying to make us feel prices arnt increasing by reducing quantities. The reason for this may be that in the past they've increased the price and lost custom.

That is almost certainly the reason, how many times have people posted topics here like 'Tesco yoghurt increased from 7p to 9p, greedy scum!!'