Wimbledon 2011 Letter URGENT HELP!

kkhimji2001

Hello everyone please help me I received a solicitors letter in the post saying I sold tickets on ebay and that I need to provide details of

1. identity/contact details of the party involved
2. full details of the tickets - location etc
3. account of profit made on the sale of the tickets

im very worried, what will happen?

fluffnutter

Did you sell tickets on ebay?

kkhimji2001

Advertised on ebay but did not sell them..eventually sold them outside ebay (via email)

fluffnutter

Well, you've not done what you've been accused of then have you?

TBH, I know little about this kind of thing and couldn't possibly advise you. But you need to find out what the law is regarding selling Wimbledon tickets - AFAIK it's not a 'designated sporting event' and there are some ways that ticket touting might not be illegal (depending on how the tickets are sold I assume).

However, as an aside (and again I'm not an expert) I doubt you're under any legal compunction to tell a solicitor anything. The police and courts? Yes. But some speculative solicitor's letter? Probably not.

Don't tell them anything until you know exactly what you're doing.

fluffnutter

Found this on ebay. Hopefully it's of some comfort to you.. although I'd hang fire and see what others on here say

If you sell Wimbledon Tickets, their solicitors may bid on your item to obtain your details.

You may then receive a letter.

Do not panic. Google the name of the solicitors plus "wimbledon tickets" for information.

You will find that while you should not really have sold the sports or concert tickets, Wimbledon do not have any grounds for the threats they make.

You should write to them and ask them to justify the lawfulness of their request and the level of damages they are claiming. It is normal in law that if you have breached a contract or committed another civil offence against someone, they are entitled to their damages which are essentially nil. They are not normally entitled to your gain. Wimbledon will attempt to ignore your questions, but you should stick to your guns.

TBH, I'd just write back saying 'I didn't sell the tickets on ebay'. True and irrefutable and I also assume ebay could confirm this. End of story

kkhimji2001

Max bitel green llp acting on behalf of wimbledon. you are not allowed to advertise tickets though, thats the problem..

"if they are advertised for sale, sold, or transferred the tickets become void"

kkhimji2001

oh the tickets did sell on ebay but the buyer did not follow up and pay for them, and then someone else emailed me and wanted them?

fluffnutter

kkhimji2001 wrote: »

oh the tickets did sell on ebay but the buyer did not follow up and pay for them, and then someone else emailed me and wanted them?

You still didn't sell them on ebay. You are not lying when you say 'I didn't sell the tickets on ebay. The buyer did not provide the funds'. End of conversation.

kkhimji2001

the tickets did sell on ebay but were not actually sold to the winning buyer does that make sense?

fluffnutter

I guess so. I'm not great on ebay processes.

Even so, don't worry too much. Either ignore, or do what ebay suggests, i.e. ask them to justify the lawfulness of their request. They've not lost anything (by your selling the tickets) so they're not entitled to anything. That's contract law. Don't be intimidated.

kkhimji2001

in consideration of the all england law tennis ground etc... not commencing proceedings against ________ (name) for the unauthorised transfer, sale or offer of non-debenture tickets to the wimbledon championships ,I ________irrevocably undertake to:

1. immediately cease and hereafter desist from selling, transferring, offering or advertising for sale tickets

2. provide to the club, at the same time as this undertaking is provided, full written details of
2.1 identity and full contact details of the party or parties from whom the tickets have been previously or were proposed to be obtained; and
2.2 the contract of transaction with such party or parties including when and were the transactions(s) or contracts(s) took place, what tickets were obtained, the full ticket details of the tickets obtained including the row and seat numbers, and from where such party or parties purported to acquire such tickets

3. forwith deliver up all tickets to the club that are now or that in future come into the possession of _________ without the written consent of the club or confirm the full tickets details if delivery of the same is not possible

4. provide an account of the proifit made on the sale of the tickets if a full refund is not made