Hands off my pension

ruggedtoast

Generali wrote: »

Fair enough. Just remember that the bozos in Greggs and Carphonewohrehouse are the ones paying for your pension.

I pay for it out of my taxes, that I pay from my earnings, that come from the value that I bring to the country as a team leader for a 'Promotion of the Enjoyment of Equality and Diversity' unit in a vibrant London borough.

Really2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I pay for it out of my taxes,

So do I.................. but I don't have a public sector pension.:D

Credit-Crunched

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I pay for it out of my taxes, that I pay from my earnings, that come from the value that I bring to the country as a team leader for a 'Promotion of the Enjoyment of Equality and Diversity' unit in a vibrant London borough.

Wow - what a lovely made up title that will provide nothing to the community.....the exact civil servant who is bleeding this country dry

Generali

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

To be clear, these are changes that were negotiated under the previous government.

Most Departments have had/are having 25% head count reductions (or more). This did not result in strikes. We have a two year pay freeze (following a one year pay freeze in some cases), plus a promotion freeze. However that is not enough for the Condems who want the shirt off my bl00dy back as well and have to resort to barefaced lies to "justify" it (as revealed by Evan Davis yesterday).

This is why I went on strike.

To clarify, does a promotion freeze mean that you can't be promoted on merit any more or that you no longer get automatic promotions due to having worked for a particular period of time?

I have never been promoted for working xx years. I have been promoted for being good at what I do however.

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I pay for it out of my taxes, that I pay from my earnings, that come from the value that I bring to the country as a team leader for a 'Promotion of the Enjoyment of Equality and Diversity' unit in a vibrant London borough.

I truly do hope you are joking.

ILW

Really2 wrote: »

So do I.................. but I don't have a public sector pension.:D

That's the bit that they just don't seem to get.

I do think that working in the public sector does seem to give many a feeling of entitlement.

ILW

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

To be clear, these are changes that were negotiated under the previous government.

Most Departments have had/are having 25% head count reductions (or more). This did not result in strikes. We have a two year pay freeze (following a one year pay freeze in some cases), plus a promotion freeze. However that is not enough for the Condems who want the shirt off my bl00dy back as well and have to resort to barefaced lies to "justify" it (as revealed by Evan Davis yesterday).

This is why I went on strike.

Please explain what a "promotion freeze" is?

Sir_Humphrey

Generali wrote: »

To clarify, does a promotion freeze mean that you can't be promoted on merit any more or that you no longer get automatic promotions due to having worked for a particular period of time?

Promotions are on merit only in the civil service (or at least since the Northcote-Trevelyan report reforms in 1854).

http://www.civilservant.org.uk/northcotetrevelyan.pdf

Getting promoted is very challenging even when there is no freeze.

Mr_Mumble

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

In the Civil Service, we accepted changes which make them sustainable.

The Principal Civil Service Pension Scheme where for every £1 in employee contribution £18 is paid out in pension! :eek:

Yeah, that is so sustainable.

Really2

ILW wrote: »

I do think that working in the public sector does seem to give many a feeling of entitlement.

TBF my other half knows the score, she accepts her pensions will be reviewed and will be getting a nominal 5.4% pay cut over the next 2 years.

Country's in a bad way, she is of the view she would rather take a cut than more people lose jobs.
Things will have to rebalance one day the longer it goes without rebalance the more like greece we become.