Duncan Smith urges firms to hire unemployed Britons

DCFC79

GothicStirling wrote: »

When I worked as a catering manager, I hired a lot of migrants. Especially those from Hungary or Czech Republic over younger Brits.

Why?
Because they have a completely different work ethic. They worked hard, were good with customers and -unlike the Brit kids - would stay until the job was done. I never got crap off them, unlike the 18 year olds.

One of the girls - who is now a good friend - worked full time for me, she then worked in the evening as a hospital cleaner and on her days off from me was doing voluntary agriculture work for the council. Unsurprisingly she left to do a second degree at Edinburgh University.

As an employer I wanted the best people for the job, not to positively discriminate just because they are nationals. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen or get competitive.

psst, The DM isn't the most objective tabloid when it comes to migration.

my last job i had the pleasure(didnt instill us lot with much confidence really) of being told that the owner of the firm thought citizens from eastern europe eg poland, latvia etc were harder workers than us brits and the EU citizens were more loyal. Funny thing is since i was last there 2 or 3 of these from the EU have either left or been fired.

My experience of them is that they were fast at doing and managed to double amount of work i did on printers but they managed to fall into the trap of talking too much and not get to much work done.

dseventy

I own 6 companies that pick veg/fruit across Lincs/Cambs/Notts.

It means getting up "for the bus" at 5am.

You might get 3 hours work that day, perhaps 12.

The locals(UK bab "born and bred") dont want the work. The polish/latvians/hungarians etc turn up.

They do amazing work. They are the defination of "piece work".

Whilst brits sit at home and moan about lack of opportunities.

LOL

D70

Widelats

DCFC79 wrote: »

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has urged UK businesses to "give a chance" to unemployed young Britons, rather than relying on foreign workers.

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Will anyone take any notice of what he says ?

Its the same guy who said the jobcentre did not have any targets for referring people for sanctions on their benefits, he went on T.V. and called it a conspiracy against him, so of course i don't believe a word he says its a paper tiger stance.

You'll see in a few months he will probably hit the headlines again for having illegal Lithuanian cleaners in his office working for £2 a hour, take no notice of him.

Tippytoes

dseventy wrote: »

I own 6 companies that pick veg/fruit across Lincs/Cambs/Notts.

It means getting up "for the bus" at 5am.

You might get 3 hours work that day, perhaps 12.

The locals(UK bab "born and bred") dont want the work. The polish/latvians/hungarians etc turn up.

They do amazing work. They are the defination of "piece work".

Whilst brits sit at home and moan about lack of opportunities.

LOL

D70

I find it impossible to share your humour. The locals, as you call them, probably have mortgages to pay and may well be family people who are eligible for little or no benefit entitlement. Quite possibly, someone who's busted a gut working round the clock to provide for their family, only to be redundant? Your immigrant will almost certainly be living in shared accommodation with God knows how many others. Sharing the cost of all the expenses your "sit at home Brit" has to bear alone. No tax credits, no child benefit for a tribe of kids back in the homeland. They don't come here for the weather.

You really don't have a clue what is going on....but Mr Duncan Smith has had to tell it like it is. You can only cover-up for so long...

SueC_2

dseventy wrote: »

I own 6 companies that pick veg/fruit across Lincs/Cambs/Notts.

It means getting up "for the bus" at 5am.

You might get 3 hours work that day, perhaps 12.

The locals(UK bab "born and bred") dont want the work. The polish/latvians/hungarians etc turn up.

They do amazing work. They are the defination of "piece work".

Whilst brits sit at home and moan about lack of opportunities.

LOL

D70

It's not really comparing like with like though is it? On the one hand you have the Polish / Latvians / Hungarians etc that literally got up and looked for work to the extent that they left their homes and countries for it, and on the other hand you have the stay at home BABs who are happier on benefits than working.

I'm absolutely certain that Poland, Latvia and Hungary have BABs of their own, we just don't see them over here. Equally there will be Brits working damn hard in other countries of the world.

So really, to say that 'foreigners' are harder working than the English, is really quite nonsensical. Some people work hard, others don't, nationality isn't really the factor that dictates work performance. And every employer has the right to choose the best person for the job. So it is, and so it should be.

vax2002

Try paying a living wage and you might get people to work, of course migrants can work for less, they often live 8 to a room and are mini bussed around by vicious gang masters, many are working to try and get home. They are slaves.
But you employ cheap labour, then wonder why no body in the community has any money to buy your produce, you can have one (cheap labour) or you can have the other (customers) but you can not have both.
AND .. If these foreign national are such clever hard working folk how come the countries they come from are such backward sh1tholes

Tippytoes

vax2002 wrote: »

Try paying a living wage and you might get people to work, of course migrants can work for less, they often live 8 to a room and are mini bussed around by vicious gang masters, many are working to try and get home. They are slaves.
But you employ cheap labour, then wonder why no body in the community has any money to buy your produce, you can have one (cheap labour) or you can have the other (customers) but you can not have both.
AND .. If these foreign national are such clever hard working folk how come the countries they come from are such backward sh1tholes

Amen, Amen.....

Vincent_Buenisedes

I think the main motivation for migrants to work hard is purely financial - the low wages on offer will go a lot further in their home countries. If there was an economy in the world that offered the equivalent of £20 a hour for packing boxes or wiping tables, I bet half the British workfore would upsticks and slum it over there!

GothicStirling

SueC wrote: »

And every employer has the right to choose the best person for the job. So it is, and so it should be.

Which was my point.

GothicStirling

Widelats wrote: »

Its the same guy who said the jobcentre did not have any targets for referring people for sanctions on their benefits, he went on T.V. and called it a conspiracy against him, so of course i don't believe a word he says its a paper tiger stance.

You'll see in a few months he will probably hit the headlines again for having illegal Lithuanian cleaners in his office working for £2 a hour, take no notice of him.

He is also the one taking benefits away from society's most in need.