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Duncan Smith urges firms to hire unemployed Britons
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Question is though what does he qualify as "young", this government bangs on about the 16-24 jobs market more than any other demographic, which is all well and good, but ultimately that's only part of the problem!Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.0
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Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has urged UK businesses to "give a chance" to unemployed young Britons, rather than relying on foreign workers.
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Which could, oh so easily, be interpreted as:
Senior government minister encourages employers to disregard current regulations regarding discrimination on grounds of race and age...? No? :think:0 -
Im a 56 year old bloke and not worked for three years. I had an accident at work where I fell down stairs on left materials from another trade. That`s a long story and I can now no longer apply my trade as a plasterer.
I have applied for so many different jobs paying virtualy peanuts but even those have been without luck. Who wants to employ a 56 year old with two dodgy knees?.0 -
Which could, oh so easily, be interpreted as:
Senior government minister encourages employers to disregard current regulations regarding discrimination on grounds of race and age...? No? :think:
So discrimination can only be against foreigners and not native British people who may be of many ethnic origins and races?! I think you have misunderstood the dictionary definition of discrimination and what the Equality Act actually says.
The predictable response of employers -
British workers have no skills and a bad attitude: Employers hit back at IDS claims that they hire too many migrants
Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:0 -
So discrimination can only be against foreigners and not native British people who may be of many ethnic origins and races?! I think you have misunderstood the dictionary definition of discrimination and what the Equality Act actually says.
The predictable response of employers -
British workers have no skills and a bad attitude: Employers hit back at IDS claims that they hire too many migrants
When I worked as a catering manager, I hired a lot of migrants. Especially those from Hungary or Czech Republic over younger Brits.
Why?
Because they have a completely different work ethic. They worked hard, were good with customers and -unlike the Brit kids - would stay until the job was done. I never got crap off them, unlike the 18 year olds.
One of the girls - who is now a good friend - worked full time for me, she then worked in the evening as a hospital cleaner and on her days off from me was doing voluntary agriculture work for the council. Unsurprisingly she left to do a second degree at Edinburgh University.
As an employer I wanted the best people for the job, not to positively discriminate just because they are nationals. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen or get competitive.
psst, The DM isn't the most objective tabloid when it comes to migration.0 -
So discrimination can only be against foreigners and not native British people who may be of many ethnic origins and races?!
Did I say ANY of that?I think you have misunderstood the dictionary definition of discrimination and what the Equality Act actually says.
I don't think I have.0 -
GothicStirling wrote: »When I worked as a catering manager, I hired a lot of migrants. Especially those from Hungary or Czech Republic over younger Brits.
It really is a shame the majority of Brits spoil it for the rest who actually want to work and do have a good attitude to work. Problem is if you keep hiring foreigners on this basis, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as you'll never get any good Brits, just good foreigners.
Edit: even worse employers may actually be digging themselves into a big hole. First, if you're not putting money into British people's hands, they have none to spend at your business. Second, if you don't recruit native Brits because you think they make bad employees - wait until laws ban immigrant employment and you have no choice. All you'll have to choose from are those you previously rejected, who have a doubly negative attitude to work due to long-term unemployment.Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:0 -
It really is a shame the majority of Brits spoil it for the rest who actually want to work and do have a good attitude to work. Problem is if you keep hiring foreigners on this basis, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as you'll never get any good Brits, just good foreigners.
Edit: even worse employers may actually be digging themselves into a big hole. First, if you're not putting money into British people's hands, they have none to spend at your business. Second, if you don't recruit native Brits because you think they make bad employees - wait until laws ban immigrant employment and you have no choice. All you'll have to choose from are those you previously rejected, who have a doubly negative attitude to work due to long-term unemployment.
If a Brit can come into an interview and prove to me they will work just as hard as the migrant candidate then I will hire them. However, having worked right from the bottom [first catering job was in a canteen] right up to being a manager of a five star restaurant, it is a rarity.
Firstly, there is no way this law will get passed. I can see the Supreme Court laughing already. And secondly, being British has never stopped me finding work. Quite the opposite, but the majority of the time employers can't believe their luck when they see my CV.0 -
I find word choice interesting here. When posters are saying 'foreigner' what they mean is EU citizens. I'll be very interested in seeing how Cameron intends to curb EU migration which is enshrined in the European Constitution.0
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