IVF......How to save costs!

milkydrink

Carmina_Piranha wrote:

(and yes, IVF rules vary. my sister's neighbour in her 20s is on the waiting list for it despite already having 2 children, one of which lives with her).

Are you saying that she has two children & ONLY one lives with her & she is getting IVF?
What PCT is that?
Kim

Carmina_Piranha_3

we're in staffordshire.

my sister told me, so it's not an urban myth but i appreciate that some details might not be correct/true. she's not getting along with them at the moment and thinks they shouldn't be allowed free ivf because the child living with them gets DLA and is so badly behaved that it prevents either of them from ever working, even part time. she has had 2 children but doesn't see one her ex has, he's also got a child that he's not in contact with.

from a 'daily mail' point of view they both already have children that they don't see and don't pay for because they haven't ever worked. and if the child living with them is such a nightmare that they can't work, then how would they manage a baby? it's more expense for the state etc. etc.

but that doesn't really come into it. rumours aside, they both have had children already, and both are under 30. in some areas that would mean they couldn't get free ivf.

the_devil_made_me_do_it

yes it's not right having one rule for certain areas of the country and one rule for other areas. It's always been a bizarre thing to me, never really understood why it is, and doubt if I ever will.

Carmina_Piranha_3

there was talk of having he same rules for everyone, i can't remember when but will try to find the thread. i think there ought to be the same rules everywhere but i suppose if one area has many more patients wanting ivf than another area how would that work? waiting lists might be years long :-(

another thing i thought i might mention to the OP. i've read that for women with PCOS losing 5% of your bodyweight can kicstart your fertility, but i suppose that only works for obese women. the fat produces it's own hormones i think, so less fat means less of an imbalance. losing weight when you have pcos isn't easy though, i know women who have resorted to taking slimming pills and even having stomach stapling!

fsdss

LondonDiva wrote:

OP
A GP who prescribes medication for an operation / procedure that the NHS has not agreed to pay for is BREAKING THE LAW. S/he can be had up for gross professional misconduct and fraud if the PCT has not agreed to pay for the procedure. As the costs that the organisation works out includes the drugs and an evaluation of risk in context, it is unethical and irresponsible behaviour.

The same goes for the methods that the consultant used, which would not withstand professional or financial scrutiny.

that may be so but i did state that part of my treatment was NHS and part private to reduce the costs, so technically (if it is true that you state) he was not breaking the law as the NHS was agreeing to support my private treatment.

heavenly_2

Carmina_Piranha wrote:

i've read that for women with PCOS losing 5% of your bodyweight can kicstart your fertility, but i suppose that only works for obese women. the fat produces it's own hormones i think, so less fat means less of an imbalance. losing weight when you have pcos isn't easy though, i know women who have resorted to taking slimming pills and even having stomach stapling!

I believe that this is the case, but luckily for me Im a normal body weight for my height.

Ive contacted some clinics and they are sending me some details about egg sharing. Im starting a new nanny job soon and my employer works for the NHS trusts, and she is going to look into things for me. Find out what critera each area has.

I would just like to thank everyone for replying to my thread, its really good of you.

Just taken my 1st Metformin tablet too. Oh what fun!!!!

Carmina_Piranha_3

oh dear, are you having side effects? try building up from half a tablet a day to whichever dose you've been given, and try taking the tablet halfway through a meal.

ooobedoo

Hiya, to give you some hope, I was told that I would never get pregnant as I also have PCOS. After getting married and wanting to research starting a family, I discovered I had classic case PCOS, after a little conflict with my non so clued up doctor I was referred to an endocrinologist who told me that:
A) Would become fertile after taking metformin
Not need the fertility apointment
C) Have periods(only had 2/3 per year)

And he was correct, I am now the very proud mother of 2 children, age 4 yrs and 18days. Fingers crossed for you.

I have taken metformin for 5 years, always make sure you eat enough when you take them, otherwise you can have a dodgy tummy.

Carmina_Piranha_3

once i was on metformin my periods were normal. i must have needed the treatment for endometriosis in order to get pregnant, because after that i had a baby and then also had a miscarriage so i assume my fertility is normal after having the endo treatment. three cheers for metformin!!

milkydrink

Carmina_Piranha wrote:

we're in staffordshire.

my sister told me, so it's not an urban myth but i appreciate that some details might not be correct/true. she's not getting along with them at the moment and thinks they shouldn't be allowed free ivf because the child living with them gets DLA and is so badly behaved that it prevents either of them from ever working, even part time. she has had 2 children but doesn't see one her ex has, he's also got a child that he's not in contact with.

from a 'daily mail' point of view they both already have children that they don't see and don't pay for because they haven't ever worked. and if the child living with them is such a nightmare that they can't work, then how would they manage a baby? it's more expense for the state etc. etc.

but that doesn't really come into it. rumours aside, they both have had children already, and both are under 30. in some areas that would mean they couldn't get free ivf.

That's not right, if she can't be a mother to the children she already has why is she state funded to have more.
Sorry if I sound bitter, but perhaps I am.