Police car bullying its way through red light.

Woody._2

bigjl wrote: »

The only time i have heard the met warn other forces is when they are involved in a pursuit.

Do the met have to inform you of everything they do?

Woody._2

bigjl wrote: »

To use the fact that some robbery squad cars might not have or some cid cars not relevant to the main point, which is that blue light use in the emergency services is well regulated and they don't stick them on when not needed.

When did you last drive one of these vehicles?

Or any police vehicle in anger for that matter?

CWCDiver

bigjl wrote: »

Are you having a laugh.

You don't consider scene protection as using them for what they are intended.

Or are you trying to be pedantic.

If you have blues on your own car then that would indicate you are o
n call and therefore a more senior rank.

If you don't realise that the black.box records everything that goes on in the vehicle, including blue light and siren use then you can't be Met.

And since the Las has had this tech since 2005 i assumed the Met would also have the same link, even the pruvate co M and L knows when.staff put on the noise.

When did I say that "scene protection wasn't using them for what they are intended."? I said that they were used often outside of responding to calls.

I am indeed on call and I am an Acting DCI.

Also, my car does not have a "black box" it has emergency warning equipment, airwave and a CS safe in the boot, there is no black box, the same as on most MPS unmarked vehicles (many of which are fleet hire vehicles).

CWCDiver

bigjl wrote: »

Your last bit concerns me, why would you inform.the control rooms you have your lights on, never heard of this ever. Theonly time i heard similar was when private firms were hammering along with the blues on without good reason, which may explain the new technology.

I have just figured it out, you are not job but are one of these private firms doing organ retrieval aren't you?

I often inform other forces that I am passing through their area for a whole host of reasons, I also always turn to the local talk group on my handset in case there is an urgent assistance or anything else ever occurs, it is best practice as recommended by the NPIA.

CWCDiver

bigjl wrote: »

So why are you not aware that blue light use is recorded then?

To use the fact that some robbery squad cars might not have or some cid cars not relevant to the main point, which is that blue light use in the emergency services is well regulated and they don't stick them on when not needed.

To differentiate between responding and scene safety is being pedantic.

Though the Ambulance service can put the lights on at any time they are claiming exemptions, these exemptions are claimed by the driver in relation to the patients condition and as such they require no permission from EOC, the only time EOC are informed is when the patients condition requires they go straight to resus and not the normal triage route, but it is legal and allowed to claim exemptions at any point if the patients condition warrants it.

Blue lights are only to warn other road users that exemptons may be used, and i have never had my EOC phone any other police force to say i am on the way.

The only time i have heard the met warn other forces is when they are involved in a pursuit.

LAS officers oncall.use unmarked lease cars to come into London and they inform nobody either.

I reckon you live in the seventies.

You are using an example you believe you understand from one force, I travel all over the UK and encounter other officers who are in similar circs to me and can assure you that outside of marked vehicles very few job motors have a blackbox, those that are personal issue vehicles, take home cars and for senior officers on the Supernintendo's scheme are mostly all hire cars and the agreement is that nothing other than Airwave and low profile emergency warning equipment will not be fitted.

I do not have to inform other forces that I am going through their area, but it is best practice to do so and in fact I do so even when not on a blat! There are many situations that can arise from being in another force area and informing the control room can negate them.

Yes I am well aware of the situation with LAS and LFB officers using their personal vehicles to come into London, all I will say is my vehicle is flagged on PNC as being an unmarked job motor so if someone runs it through the box it comes back with that info and a number to call. It does not, like LFB cars, come back as a Hertz vehicle....