ASDA confirm that they get share of all revenue got from TCP's PCNs

AlexisV

... which causes the lazy able-bodied minority to use them as they can see no harm.

Half of Tesco Chester seems to be disabled bays. The car park looks empty as people use the perimeter spaces, leaving the centre deserted.

Coupon-mad

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I can tell that the driver isn't disabled if...

You assume too much. It's not the driver who has to be disabled - they could be collecting someone as we have already pointed out. Surely you don't leave your important post as resident parking vulture to stalk them into the shops to check?

And you still haven't said how you can tell if someone has cancer, coeliac disease, HIV or diabetes, or any other invisible long-term condition? Or whether one of their passengers has impaired vision or an invisible condition or maybe a mental disability?

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Meanwhile, you sit there watching the genuine users circling the car park for twenty minutes looking for a space to become free, or that they just eventually have no choice but to give up and go somewhere else.

Never seen that, ever! I have never had that problem when taking disabled relatives to shops, never had to circle round for a space when I had a job transporting disabled people (invisible to you as they had a mental disability...). Oh, I have had to wait for a disabled space on occasion on a busy Saturday or at Christmas - but then so does anyone, waiting for ANY space at the busiest times!

So I think I speak with some exerience when I say widespread disabled bay abuse is a myth.

Flyboy152 wrote: »

"Don't worry about the disabled drivers, they can just go shop somewhere else."

You said that. I have never said that and you couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

The fact is that PPCs like to abuse the nice easy BB scheme because it make it easier to farm the car parks where they carry out their protection racket. It's convenient for people in your 'job' to just forget about disability awareness and complying with the law, and just send their latest basic wage employee out with the instruction to 'ticket anything in those bays with no Blue Badge'. Job done in your opinion!

Sirdan

I too have never witnessed the circling cars described by Flyboy ...but he couldn't be making it up could he ?????

As for ASDA and their motives perhaps Flyboy and Webby would care to explain this to me.

When first constructed my ASDA had a row of disabled bays right along the side of the shop ..and no PPC in place.

Now it has TCP in the car park and oddly another set of spaces has been repainted as disabled BUT these spaces are actually further from the store entrance than some of the regular spaces ?????

So who are they for and what is their purpose ...??

Could it be revenue generation ? Surely not ?????

Perhaps using Webby and Flyboy logic it should follow that if a disabled person parks in the non disabled spaces which are closer to the store then they too should be penalised ..after all there are plenty of disabled user spaces surely these spaces nearer the store should be for non disabled users only ????

Adam_D

I've apparantly got one recently when I went to Asda. I ironically had a visitors pass on my dashboard which fell down out of view. However I didn't know I had been issued a 'Penalty Charge Notice' until I got a letter.

Isn't a PCN for want of a better word a 'ticket' and therefore technically a summons? And don't summons/ writs have to be served on the person? How can they be so sure to prove it when I haven't recieved anything in paper or verbals?!?

More so to the point they have not quoted any legislation or act or section. Under what legal powers can they enforce this on? They haven't been granted any 'powers' or are accredited persons? Not these cowboys!

I intend to ignore this. I have had one before in the past, which was stuck on the windscreen of my car. I left it and they sent a letter threatening legal action/ court etc. Nothing came of it and that was 2 years ago.

The only thing that concerns me is that they are threatening to sell it onto a debt recovery agent, but then for that debt to be enforced would not they be obliged to provide evidence of a material loss of revenue??! I am still going to ignore these bullyboy tactics. I won't even warrant them with a reply as that could be like me putting a little sign in my garden and then trying to issue a 'penal charge' to those entering it for using my oxygen! Total utter b.s!

They state my car was in there at 4pm, but haven't stated when it went it or when it left. Sometimes I am there for hours, other times a few minutes. There is no photog evidence mentioned either!

There is a phone no listed, but it states it an automated payment line - no chance of talking to an operator on this 0845 number! The letter wasn't even sent recorded delivery - the chancers! Quite concerning that the DVLA are disclosing our details like this.

Kite2010

Adam_D wrote: »

I've apparantly got one recently when I went to Asda. I ironically had a visitors pass on my dashboard which fell down out of view. However I didn't know I had been issued a 'Penalty Charge Notice' until I got a letter.

Isn't a PCN for want of a better word a 'ticket' and therefore technically a summons? And don't summons/ writs have to be served on the person? How can they be so sure to prove it when I haven't recieved anything in paper or verbals?!?

More so to the point they have not quoted any legislation or act or section. Under what legal powers can they enforce this on? They haven't been granted any 'powers' or are accredited persons? Not these cowboys!

I intend to ignore this. I have had one before in the past, which was stuck on the windscreen of my car. I left it and they sent a letter threatening legal action/ court etc. Nothing came of it and that was 2 years ago.

The only thing that concerns me is that they are threatening to sell it onto a debt recovery agent, but then for that debt to be enforced would not they be obliged to provide evidence of a material loss of revenue??! I am still going to ignore these bullyboy tactics. I won't even warrant them with a reply as that could be like me putting a little sign in my garden and then trying to issue a 'penal charge' to those entering it for using my oxygen! Total utter b.s!

They state my car was in there at 4pm, but haven't stated when it went it or when it left. Sometimes I am there for hours, other times a few minutes. There is no photog evidence mentioned either!

There is a phone no listed, but it states it an automated payment line - no chance of talking to an operator on this 0845 number! The letter wasn't even sent recorded delivery - the chancers! Quite concerning that the DVLA are disclosing our details like this.

Parking Charge Notice is another word for unenforceable invoice, you don't owe them a penny. Write to Asda saying that thanks to harassment by a contractor you shall no longer be shopping there.

Ignore the paper trail from various desks in the portacabin of love

Adam_D

I am to withdraw my custom from Asda now. We tend to do the weekly shop in there which comes to well over a hundred pounds (110-120) so they have now lost 5 and half grand a year (including the little drop ins there). I will send them a letter saying that I, my family plus friends will now be shopping at Tesco (they gave me 2 very polite warning letters pleading with me not to take the mick with the carpark which I have obeyed), Morrisons, Sainsburys, Somerfields, Farmfoods etc. Asda have blown it now lol. Those places can have my 5 and a half K now

RENEGADE_2

Adam_D wrote: »

I've apparantly got one recently when I went to Asda. I ironically had a visitors pass on my dashboard which fell down out of view. However I didn't know I had been issued a 'Penalty Charge Notice' until I got a letter.

Isn't a PCN for want of a better word a 'ticket' and therefore technically a summons? And don't summons/ writs have to be served on the person? How can they be so sure to prove it when I haven't recieved anything in paper or verbals?!?

More so to the point they have not quoted any legislation or act or section. Under what legal powers can they enforce this on? They haven't been granted any 'powers' or are accredited persons? Not these cowboys!

I intend to ignore this. I have had one before in the past, which was stuck on the windscreen of my car. I left it and they sent a letter threatening legal action/ court etc. Nothing came of it and that was 2 years ago.

The only thing that concerns me is that they are threatening to sell it onto a debt recovery agent, but then for that debt to be enforced would not they be obliged to provide evidence of a material loss of revenue??! I am still going to ignore these bullyboy tactics. I won't even warrant them with a reply as that could be like me putting a little sign in my garden and then trying to issue a 'penal charge' to those entering it for using my oxygen! Total utter b.s!

They state my car was in there at 4pm, but haven't stated when it went it or when it left. Sometimes I am there for hours, other times a few minutes. There is no photog evidence mentioned either!

There is a phone no listed, but it states it an automated payment line - no chance of talking to an operator on this 0845 number! The letter wasn't even sent recorded delivery - the chancers! Quite concerning that the DVLA are disclosing our details like this.

Absolutely, ignore it. You are in the right. As for the importance of ASDA itself, feel free to take your custom elsewhere, the world doesn't revolve around them.

webby23

Right,

Following a flurry of PMs to and from me and various members, I do now appreciate that in fact the "council warden" I thought I saw may well have actually have been a representative from this "Town and Country" parking firm.

I may have seen the high viz vest, computerised ticket machine etc and then, when I saw him walking the Pay and Display car parks in town, have put 2 and 2 together and got 57.8.......

I just wanted to clarify that fact, and apologise for any confusion caused by my posts.

Whilst I remain anti-"anti social" parking, I do accept in instances there may well be carriages of misjustice in the practice.

I did report the A7 driver, and he did get ticketed, but that was based on the wardens observations following my tip off.

Cheers

Martyn

RENEGADE_2

webby23 wrote: »

Right,

Following a flurry of PMs to and from me and various members, I do now appreciate that in fact the "council warden" I thought I saw may well have actually have been a representative from this "Town and Country" parking firm.

I may have seen the high viz vest, computerised ticket machine etc and then, when I saw him walking the Pay and Display car parks in town, have put 2 and 2 together and got 57.8.......

I just wanted to clarify that fact, and apologise for any confusion caused by my posts.

Whilst I remain anti-"anti social" parking, I do accept in instances there may well be carriages of misjustice in the practice.

I did report the A7 driver, and he did get ticketed, but that was based on the wardens observations following my tip off.

Cheers

Martyn

Easy mistake, I hope everyone will accept and move on. By the way, you did make one !!!!-up! "Town and Country" is an estate agent not a PPC!! You meant "Town and City" :rotfl:

webby23

RENEGADE wrote: »

Easy mistake, I hope everyone will accept and move on. By the way, you did make one !!!!-up! "Town and Country" is an estate agent not a PPC!! You meant "Town and City" :rotfl:

Sorry, Town and City !!

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