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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    RENEGADE wrote: »
    Your mother should have swallowed you when she had the chance.

    !!!!!! am I on? It's called "common sense" but this is a concept beyond your frame of reference.

    Your comments are full of sh*t. A driver parks at Asda P&C and you go to a civil servant who issues a penalty? That's a bit like Greek police arresting a Swedish fugitive in Tajikistan and extraditing him to Brazil to face charges.

    1) The council has no jurisdiction on private land. When a Parking Services officer writes out a ticket, it requires that he tick set boxes, apply codes known to the local authority and most of all, state the destination, name of road, etc. Only an idiot will now believe your fairytale that his penalty sheet will contain a special box "parked in P&C inside private carpark".

    2) It is not clear whether it was an abuse until the driver has left departed. Arriving alone is one thing, giving him a ticket is also one thing; but if he should return to his car with his wife and a handful of children, his accusers will have made tw*ts of themselves (still, I am sure you know what you are doing in this field as it is second nature to you).

    What an absolutely reprehensible and thoroughly despicable way to behave. You ought be ashamed of yourself. You are no better than a bully in a school playground. I think you should apologise immediatley.
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  • RENEGADE_2
    RENEGADE_2 Posts: 948 Forumite
    edited 27 June 2011 at 11:24PM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Rubbish. If you see someone breaking into a house, do you approach to ask them, "is this your house?" All reasonable people would call the police, immediately. But seeing you are very far from being a reasonable person , I can see why you would hang about establishing their credentials. :wall:

    Yes - if I were you, I would have hours of fun banging my head against a brick wall.

    What has all this "breaking into a house" nonsense got to do with private tickets? If I don't know the owner of a house and yet I see a person climbing a ladder to get through a window left open at the top - there is such thing as having lost one's keys and using a secondary method to get inside. Somehow I don't think anyone would witness a break-in because any burglar with something between his ears will only do this when nobody is watching. You use a bad example - but to get to your own point, what do we do when we see someone breaking the law? Well that is up to you. I'd probably recommend involving the police (if you're satisfied with this answer) but where does this leave your argument for involving rogue bully-boys because one person has breached another person's phony conditions! Nowhere. PPCs are not an authority and parking in breach of a landowner's terms is not a crime, nor an offence, nor anything; just a civil dispute.
  • Oopsadaisy
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  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    edited 28 June 2011 at 6:02AM
    !!!!!! this thread is really helpful, personal abuse is not going to change anyone's opinion, I don't think certain posters are ever going to agree. Going around and around in circles is achieving nothing.

    Lets leave the personal abuse out of it please!
  • robredz
    robredz Posts: 1,602 Forumite
    @ webby23, I park a white van in a supermarket let's say it's Asda, it is a long Sprinter so overhangs into the bay behind. I am on Official Business, collecting the data bags from Customer Service. I am also disabled and walk with a stick. I don't park in a parent or disabled bay, Parking goon issues ticket, saying vehicle is too big to park, should I pay it then?
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    edited 28 June 2011 at 9:48AM
    A quick phone call to the Long Eaton ASDA store confirms that their car park is looked after by Town and City Parking, and not by the council.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 28 June 2011 at 10:59AM
    trisontana wrote: »
    A quick phone call to the Long Eaton ASDA store confirms that their car park is looked after by Town and City Parking, and not by the council.




    Thanks trisontana. Just confirms what we all knew already, because there is no Council contravention of 'being in a P&C bay'. Said very clearly yesterday!

    But Webby didn't want to hear it even though I also provided a link to the Long Eaton Asda's claim to fame of picking on a disabled toddler. Webby still seems to believe that Long Eaton Asda share the cost of the real CEO with the Council...yes of course.
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  • oldone_2
    oldone_2 Posts: 974 Forumite
    would Flyboy and Webby care to comment on the actions of the PPC in this thread
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3324542

    And would they have 'reported' the motorist if the PPC had not got there first.
  • AlexisV
    AlexisV Posts: 1,890 Forumite
    Meanwhile, you sit there watching the genuine users circling the car park for twenty minutes looking for a space to become free, or that they just eventually have no choice but to give up and go somewhere else. The very fact that you ignore that this happens, every single day, at every single supermarket and retail park, shows just how hollow your, "people who abuse the bays are a little bit naughty," really is.

    Really? I've never come across a car park where disabled drivers have to drive around for 20 minutes and then go home. Every supermarket I go in actually seems to have too many disabled spaces. There are always plenty free. And this is in Manchester.

    I'm not being facetious, but it is in PPC's own interests to exaggerate parking problems in order to gain new land and contracts. Supermarkets are happy to turn a blind eye and make themselves sound caring by sorting out those nasty people who park in disabled bays when they are able bodied.

    Never mind the collateral damage as granny has to pay half her weekly pension when her badge falls off the dash of her Rover.
  • SodG24
    SodG24 Posts: 1,123 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Meanwhile, you sit there watching the genuine users circling the car park for twenty minutes looking for a space to become free, or that they just eventually have no choice but to give up and go somewhere else. The very fact that you ignore that this happens, every single day, at every single supermarket and retail park, shows just how hollow your, "people who abuse the bays are a little bit naughty," really is.

    But it doesn't happen every single day in every single supermarket / retail park. I live less than 2 miles from an Asda, Tescos, Sainsburys, Aldi, 3 large retail parks and two DIY stores. There are ALWAYS spaces for disabled people, P&C and other people whenever I visit these places whatever the day and whatever the time. It IS a myth that it is a problem.
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