43000 people forced to move because of benefit cap

tartanterra

boatman wrote: »

Maybe it suits the media and Politicians to blame the layabouts to deflect the real culprits...

I am stunned that with cuts likely to affect many groups such as pensioners and the severely disabled, you feel that the social group which requires defending is "layabouts"..........

Words fail me........:(

Rochdale_Pioneers

Am watching Landlords from Hell. The joyous future that awaits the benefit cap refugees the government lied to us about not existing.

Mrs_Arcanum

Whatever you do, don't be aged between 25 & 35 and single and not live in anything more than a bedsit and try & claim HB. Your claim will fall well short.

rolo1952

Originally Posted by Rochdale Pioneers
Here's a radical idea. We could have local councils manage a pool of property with reduced rents. This will have the desired effect of reducing private sector rents and thus housing benefit payments.

We could call them "council houses".

Originally Posted by Rochdale Pioneers
Here's a radical idea. We could have local councils manage a pool of property with reduced rents. This will have the desired effect of reducing private sector rents and thus housing benefit payments.

We could call them "council houses".


Yes I agree however I know someone who has just moved 2 miles from a council house into a private let to" live in a better area" at an additional £150 per month and Housing benefit or the taxpayer is paying for it.

I do believe that there needs to be a major shake up in the benefits system and the £26000 cap is set way to high and the maximum benefit needs to be much lower to deter certain career benefit claiments whilst trying to help genuine people in the short term.

Morglin

The cap is probably fine in many areas, but not too realistic in London/South, where rents are excessive anyway.

There's also the point that if someone is working (and many on LHA are working), then if they have to move, they will lose their jobs, thereby costing taxpayers more.

For anyone vulnerable, councils have been told to pay 'discretionary' top ups to allow tenants to remain where they are, wherever possible - which will cost local tax payers more than the LHA would have done.

I mean, if even Eric Pickles and Boris Johnson think there are going to be major problems with shipping homeless people out to the rural and outlying areas, and the cost to councils of doing this (and we can hardly call them lefty whingers lol), then it's obvious it's another ill thought through idea by this government - however, some politicians seem to think there will be a rethink (another U turn), on this, before January, when the next stage should start, which was postponed from this year.

Have to wait and see.

Lin

sharnad

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Perhaps if LHA/HB was renamed 'Landlord benefit' ? ( ie the person(s) that receive the monthly eye-watering payments from the state ).. we might actually see where the problem with UK housing benefits bills really come from ?

It comes from there being no cap on the amount the government will pay peopleon Lha. That's sorted now so hopefully the prices will come down to the level paid or people can move to an area where they can afford to libe

ceebeeby

Oooh, here's an idea, could we feasibly have a 'payment' break from benefits for one week in two or three months time (or one week every year)? Everyone gets the opportunity to 'save' for it - and for one week, we'll pay out absolutely NOTHING in benefits to anyone - no housing benefit, nothing.

Salaried people will largely be unaffected because they would get wages but would be short of things like child benefit, tax credits etc. and people with private pensions would get them.

How much would that save?

ukcarper

Does anyone know what percentage of tenants are on LHA? Someone I know has just bought a 3-bed semi and within a week of completion has let it for £240 more than LHA for that type of property.

drc

ukcarper wrote: »

Does anyone know what percentage of tenants are on LHA? Someone I know has just bought a 3-bed semi and within a week of completion has let it for £240 more than LHA for that type of property.

It's all here;

http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/index.php?page=hbctb

ukcarper

drc wrote: »

It's all here;

http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/index.php?page=hbctb

Thanks very interesting but I couldn’t find answer to my question.

A couple of thing I found interesting were that of the 4.87m claimants two thirds are in social housing and only 1.84m have children.