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Therefore when you say macs dont have viruses just malware its like say it doesn't have a cold just cancer.
Correct, but having both is still worse than having only 1, regardless of how small the difference.0 -
mrochester wrote: »Correct, but having both is still worse than having only 1, regardless of how small the difference.
Malware doesn't equate to 1, its a collective term for malicious and unwanted programs that itself includes viruses. Not having traditional (outdated) viruses doesn't mean much.
You're saying macs don't have viruses they just have worms, trojan horses, spyware, dishonest adware, scareware, crimeware, most rootkits, and other malicious and unwanted software or programs.The lack of tradition viruses next to the above hidden behind one word is a little disingenuous.0 -
Malware doesn't equate to 1, its a collective term for malicious and unwanted programs that itself includes viruses. Not having traditional (outdated) viruses doesn't mean much.
You're saying macs don't have viruses they just have worms, trojan horses, spyware, dishonest adware, scareware, crimeware, most rootkits, and other malicious and unwanted software or programs.The lack of tradition viruses next to the above hidden behind one word is a little disingenuous.
Yep, and that's just a little bit better than having all that plus viruses, which is precisely my point!
Anyway, I think that's discussion over now. This is so way off topic it's not worth pursuing any further.0 -
Yeh Thanks guys, I went for the 15" with educational discount. Decided against the air due to my careless approach with my iphone I think MB Pro is best.
...best way to waste money!
The spec of the Macbook Pro laptop is nice, but it doesn't warrant the price tag of £1849 (with or without the token discount for students).
Once upon a time, Apple Macs relied on M68k cores which were superior to the X86 processors found in the IBM PC. But today, the Mac has a common or garden AMD64 core.
The mainboards in the Macs, in common with all laptops, are made by one of five Far Eastern motherboard makers. The rest of the hardware in the MacBook is run-of-the-mill kit. The much vaunted Mac Pro case is actually unframed so has no structural strength, and is made from rolled aluminium alloy that is of an inferior quality to the alloy used in maglite torches.
Since the heavily promoted Apple Mac operating system, OSX, will run on most laptops that were originally designed to run Microsoft Windows, the price tag of the MacBook is simply not justified.
A laptop of the specification below (but without the Apple label) could be bought for less than £500.
Since the useful life of a laptop is 3 or 4 years, when obsolescence or failure dictates replacement, the Macbook Pro represents poor value for money, and poor performance for money.MacBook Pro - 15-inch: 2.2 GHz- 2.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
- 4GB 1333MHz
- 750GB 5400-rpm1
- Intel HD Graphics 3000
- AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5
- Built-in battery (7 hours)
- Free Delivery
- £1,849.00
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...best way to waste money!
The spec of the Macbook Pro laptop is nice, but it doesn't warrant the price tag of £1849 (with or without the token discount for students).
Once upon a time, Apple Macs relied on M68k cores which were superior to the X86 processors found in the IBM PC. But today, the Mac has a common or garden AMD64 core.
The mainboards in the Macs, in common with all laptops, are made by one of five Far Eastern motherboard makers. The rest of the hardware in the MacBook is run-of-the-mill kit. The much vaunted Mac Pro case is actually unframed so has no structural strength, and is made from rolled aluminium alloy that is of an inferior quality to the alloy used in maglite torches.
Since the heavily promoted Apple Mac operating system, OSX, will run on most laptops that were originally designed to run Microsoft Windows, the price tag of the MacBook is simply not justified.
A laptop of the specification below (but without the Apple label) could be bought for less than £500.
Since the useful life of a laptop is 3 or 4 years, when obsolescence or failure dictates replacement, the Macbook Pro represents poor value for money, and poor performance for money.
Out of interest, where can you get a system that matches the spec of that 15" MBP for less than £500?0 -
...best way to waste money!
The spec of the Macbook Pro laptop is nice, but it doesn't warrant the price tag of £1849 (with or without the token discount for students).
Once upon a time, Apple Macs relied on M68k cores which were superior to the X86 processors found in the IBM PC. But today, the Mac has a common or garden AMD64 core.
The mainboards in the Macs, in common with all laptops, are made by one of five Far Eastern motherboard makers. The rest of the hardware in the MacBook is run-of-the-mill kit. The much vaunted Mac Pro case is actually unframed so has no structural strength, and is made from rolled aluminium alloy that is of an inferior quality to the alloy used in maglite torches.
Since the heavily promoted Apple Mac operating system, OSX, will run on most laptops that were originally designed to run Microsoft Windows, the price tag of the MacBook is simply not justified.
A laptop of the specification below (but without the Apple label) could be bought for less than £500.
Since the useful life of a laptop is 3 or 4 years, when obsolescence or failure dictates replacement, the Macbook Pro represents poor value for money, and poor performance for money.
The useful life of a laptop is 3 - 4 years?
I bought a £700 Sony Vaio 5 years ago, lasted 18 months before the motherboard failed, unrepairable according to technician who checked it out.
£700 basic macbook has lasted 3 years 9 months, and despite the battery only lasting 2 hours, it still works great.
I have friends with 6/7 yr old powerbooks that still work fine. I reckon my current Pro could last that long with how i treat it.
Im not saying that outright you are wrong, but in my experience your theory doesn't comply. It's why I'm prepared to spend extra on Mac, they have proved to me they last. Plus i love the iLife applications and they way it all works... matter of preference really...0 -
The useful life of a laptop is 3 - 4 years?
I bought a £700 Sony Vaio 5 years ago, lasted 18 months before the motherboard failed, unrepairable according to technician who checked it out.
£700 basic macbook has lasted 3 years 9 months, and despite the battery only lasting 2 hours, it still works great.
I have friends with 6/7 yr old powerbooks that still work fine. I reckon my current Pro could last that long with how i treat it.
Im not saying that outright you are wrong, but in my experience your theory doesn't comply. It's why I'm prepared to spend extra on Mac, they have proved to me they last. Plus i love the iLife applications and they way it all works... matter of preference really...
If/when you come to sell a Mac, they also tend to hold their value much better than a Windows machine so you don't lose as much on them.0 -
The useful life of a laptop is 3 - 4 years?
I bought a £700 Sony Vaio 5 years ago, lasted 18 months before the motherboard failed, unrepairable according to technician who checked it out.
£700 basic macbook has lasted 3 years 9 months, and despite the battery only lasting 2 hours, it still works great.
What is the specification of that four year old macbook? It's essentially obsolete. The efficiency of OSX is the only thing keeping old Macs from the dustbin. But then that efficiency is also found in Linux which costs nothing.
it might 'still work fine'... but at 7 years old, it's nevertheless obsolete.. I've still got an AMD S7 PC that's about the same age. It still works fine, it runs Linux, but it's too slow for playing MPEG4 video, or even for heavy browsing.I have friends with 6/7 yr old powerbooks that still work fine. I reckon my current Pro could last that long with how i treat it.Im not saying that outright you are wrong, but in my experience your theory doesn't comply. It's why I'm prepared to spend extra on Mac, they have proved to me they last. Plus i love the iLife applications and they way it all works... matter of preference really...
For the same money, I could buy four or maybe five non-Apple laptops for the same price as a £1849 MacBook Pro. They will all run Linux, or even OSX if needed. I could afford to upgrade with a new machine four or five times, while the Apple owner is stuck with his overpriced and now obsolete MacBook Pro.
£1849 would buy a cheap s/h runaround car. There is no technology in the Mac that warrants that price tag. It's a bog standard core i7 in an aluminium case. The heavy price includes a ~£1200 bill for Apple's wall-to-wall marketing and spin.0 -
What is the specification of that four year old macbook? It's essentially obsolete. The efficiency of OSX is the only thing keeping old Macs from the dustbin. But then that efficiency is also found in Linux which costs nothing.
it might 'still work fine'... but at 7 years old, it's nevertheless obsolete.. I've still got an AMD S7 PC that's about the same age. It still works fine, it runs Linux, but it's too slow for playing MPEG4 video, or even for heavy browsing.
For the same money, I could buy four or maybe five non-Apple laptops for the same price as a £1849 MacBook Pro. They will all run Linux, or even OSX if needed. I could afford to upgrade with a new machine four or five times, while the Apple owner is stuck with his overpriced and now obsolete MacBook Pro.
£1849 would buy a cheap s/h runaround car. There is no technology in the Mac that warrants that price tag. It's a bog standard core i7 in an aluminium case. The heavy price includes a ~£1200 bill for Apple's wall-to-wall marketing and spin.
Have you managed to find the link to that sub £500 laptop that matches the £1800 MBP spec?0 -
mrochester wrote: »Have you managed to find the link to that sub £500 laptop that matches the £1800 MBP spec?
i'm trying to see what else one could buy for £1849, the cost of that MacBook Pro.
Without buying an Apple, it's surprisingly difficult to spend that much money on a laptop.0
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