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Disabled minimum wage

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  • FleurDuLys
    FleurDuLys Posts: 227 Forumite
    Don't worry Jetta, I'm sure Beller isn't so ignorant as to try to claim that every disabled person is physically capable of working. That would really be incredibly ignorant!
  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    beller wrote: »
    Thanks at times like this we have to look at what is going out and what is coming in. If more goes out in benefits and pensions than is coming in as taxation, then something has to happen.
    Either find some work or cut back on benefits.

    Whilst I understand your comment is not directed specifically at disabled people, as you have explained in a later post, it does come across that way. I agree that benefits need to be looked at, but I am very grateful that the welfare system is here for those of us who are in genuine need of it.

    My son has Down's syndrome, as well as a number of other disabilities. He has complex needs, encompassing physical disabilities and learning difficulties (no behaviour problems, emotional problems, or mental health issues). Because of the high amount of care that he needs, plus the limitations he has due to his disabilities, he is unlikely to ever be able to work. I would be delighted if the consultatns and I were proven wrong in the future :D

    I do not work in paid employment as my son needs so much care during the day and the night. When he is in school, I often go back to bed to try to catch up on my sleep. I could not cope with a job at the moment. I would love to return to work in the future though.

    So whilst there do need to be changes to benefits, it is just as important to have a safety net for those who are most vulnerable in society.
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    Maybe if we scrap the idea of the minimum wage and make it a minimum income? That way employers could be allowed to pay target groups less in exchange for actively recruiting but the government top up the wages to the minimum. As posted earlier on the thread every £1 spend on access to work programme generates £1.47 for the government.
  • dark_lady
    dark_lady Posts: 961 Forumite
    Does anyone else think it an incredible coincidence to have these comments from "beller" on here at around the same time that Philip Davies made those remarks he did last week.

    I dont know about anyone else but i stopped believing in coincidences around the same time that i stopped believing in the Tooth Fairy and Father Christmas.
  • pleasedelete
    pleasedelete Posts: 2,291 Forumite
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    edited 21 June 2011 at 10:30PM
    It is interesting .

    20 years ago I worked for a major supermarket. We had a number of employees with downs syndrome, learning disabilities. They received the same pay however half of it was paid into the company from a charity. It seemed to work well on both sides.

    One of my family has a physical and mental condition- been in special school since age 5 (rare progressive condition) Received disability benefits from age 3. Now 19. He will probably never work and live on benefits until death (expectancy less than 10 years). He could do some part time work bag packing or shelf stacking but obviously no- one will employ him as he will be much slower thsn other employees. He probably couldn't work full time as he has regular medical support .

    I don't agree with less pay but maybe subsidising employers instead of paying benefits is worth exploring.
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  • Richie-from-the-Boro
    Richie-from-the-Boro Posts: 6,945 Forumite
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    edited 22 June 2011 at 1:53AM
    We've learned nothing new in the last couple of days, other than the twin facts that ageism has reared it head in this thread, and Flo doesn't like Andy's hairy knees, if you continue to put out he bowl s/he will slither in and sup up the contents. :)
    Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ
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