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Pay my csa but ex moved away

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  • fannyanna
    fannyanna Posts: 2,622 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    As for the will they / wont they pass on contact details I'm pretty sure I saw something that said they would do in a leaflet that we got through the post recently along with some other correspondance.
  • DX2 wrote: »
    Really, is this something new?

    I think it came in a couple of years ago, and I had it verified earlier this year.
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    fannyanna wrote: »
    Yes they can if the OP has asked the CSA to assist him in contacting the PWC. In this situation he is basically consenting for them to pass on his details.

    Of course in any other context you are correct.
    Apologises, this really is something new to me!
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • DX2 wrote: »
    Apologises, this really is something new to me!


    To be honest, I have no idea how often it actually happens...
  • vitriol wrote: »
    should she not be done for child neglect, depriving a child(ren) of one parent from another without reasonable excuse may warrant this.

    From what the OP has said and as I have previously pointed out he is not actual recognised in law as the parent and has not got Parental Responsibility. However he is recognised by the csa as the father (probably after admiting to it) and he is paying maintenace. Until he gets PR he will find he has little chance of resolving contact.

    Also there is a legal mechanism for resolving contact issues through the courts. How fit for purpose it is I cannot say as I am only just embarking on that grand adventure of litigating in person. As for the neglect idea any NRP denied contact will find that social services are uninterested unless there is actual abuse and all the police can do is verify the child is safe and well and tell you to get legal advice. It seems only a judge can change things and it should always be remembered that the court is there to represent the interests of the children and not the parents which to my mind seems right. I may change my opinion after going through the system but we shall see.

    Having said the above I wonder if you could file a missing person report with the police for your child. The police might then trace her and do a safe and well which would at least let you know they are ok. It might also prompt her to contact you.

    It is good news if the CSA will pass on contact details to a PWC/NRP at the request of the other to facilitate contact. I must confess to being sceptical of how well they will do it as their ability to lose paperwork is legendary.

    EM
    I think opinions should be judged of by their influences and effects, and if a man holds none that tend to make him less virtuous or more vicious, it may be concluded that he holds none that are dangerous; which I hope is the case with me.
  • splashproof
    splashproof Posts: 152 Forumite
    Does anyone have ideas of how to contact her without spending mega bucks I don't have. Advice would be appreciated and I know some costs will be involved. Thanks

    Get a Seek and Find Order :

    If you are seeking an order under the Children Act 1989 and do not know the whereabouts of the child, you can apply for a 'seek and find' order under section 33 of the Family Law Act 1986.
    The application is made on Form C4. Apart from your personal details this asks for the name, date of birth and sex of the child (with a recent photograph if possible) and details of "the person believed to have actual control of the child".
    Under section 33 (1) "the court may order any person who it has reason to believe may have relevant information to disclose it to the court". You will need to specify who should be required to disclose information (this is not necessarily an individual and can include a Government agency such as the DSS). You must also give a brief explanation on the form of the grounds for your application, and it may be advisable to swear an affidavit in support.
    Once the information has been provided to the court then service of the Children Act 1989 application can be effected and proceedings commenced.
  • I will try the school thanks. It is a bad day when pay nrp gets shafted but yet still the bad guy in everyone's eyes who has not been in the situation. The csa are worse than criminal if you ask me. But maybe when pwc has to contribute they might come out of woodwork. I would rather give her money than secretary of state.

    I've been told by my children's school & pre-school before that if their dad did turn up to see/collect them one day then he has every right to take them/see them, they can't stop it, as he still has legal right/access to them. I would expect that they would notify me if this did happen, and hopefully would keep them all on the premises until I arrived, but still...

    However... if you are not named on a birth certificate, and she has not put your details on the school registration forms, I don't know if that would make a difference - I have put their real dads details on the registration forms, even though I'm the PRC and he's hundreds of miles away, he still has legal rights to them.

    I wish there were more dads out there who wanted their kids to have the chance to get to know them - I would certainly welcome it, but I would never dare to just 'disappear' or refuse contact, as I can only imagine getting a slap on the wrist from the courts!!!

    Good luck
    HM
  • vitriol
    vitriol Posts: 70 Forumite
    did you also know that for a parent to deny a child(ren) access to the other parent is a form of neglect of welfare which is a form of child abuse ?
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    vitriol wrote: »
    did you also know that for a parent to deny a child(ren) access to the other parent is a form of neglect of welfare which is a form of child abuse ?
    Of course you can back that claim up, right?
    *SIGH*
    :D
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