Public Sector Strikes

gregg1

JMike wrote: »

There are jobs everywhere. If the public sector don't want theirs, they can find another and let some of the jobless have theirs.

If the jobless want to get off their backsides and train to be teachers there is nothing stopping them doing that anyway!

Flyboy152

Rotor wrote: »

Wow - use of unexplained jargon tries to win the point. You've made me look it up now and what do I see written right accross the top, straddling both categories - "substantial employer contributions"
http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/Assets/NS_PCO-2011_tcm6-1868.pdf

Perhaps classic and premium are much worse though. lol

"premium" ....... they're all frickin premium mate!

Wouldn't it have been better to have done that first, before you started spouting utter nonsense?

Rotor

gregg1 wrote: »

Come on mate - no-one is asking for increased pension benefits, merely for the Government to adhere to the terms of public sector contracts. If the Government are going to start messing about with peoples' contracts then they should have made the bankers the first to be hit - they have done far more damage to the economy than all the public sector put together.

I get a little bit fed up with this being aimed purely at teachers as well - there are other professions striking as well you know. But of course, teachers would appear to be easy targets.

As I said before, I have every sympathy with parents. I understand that they will struggle to find someone to look after their kids during the strikes for the bargain price of 40p per hour which is what a teacher does it for!!!

Disagree there. I deliberately use the term " pension benefits" rather than pension level because it implies the total amount taken in pension not the amount per year. when teachers retiring this year started their career, their retiring counterparts could expect 12 to 14 years in retirement ; it's now roughly double that. ( and likely to carry on upwards).
The cost of providing the same level of pension has approx. doubled.
In money purchase schemes this is reflected in plummeting annuity rates.
The cost of providing your pension is rising (and has risen) hugely( raised through taxation-approx 1/6th of this through taxation of public sector workers) whilst the cost of building our own pension has also risen hugely. A double whammy on the private sector worker.


Aimed at teachers. yes i suppose at the moment it is but they are much the biggest sector that is striking in this first strike day. ( i think! - no i have no source for that)


I do support the right of teachers to strike; but it is unfair that when I, in the private sector, strike kids I have to run away sharpish or I end up in Jail.















For those with a tendency to literalism .... YES it was a bl00dy joke!:p

Rotor

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Wouldn't it have been better to have done that first, before you started spouting utter nonsense?

Yes

Off topic
What do you fly boy?

Squidd

If you think the conditions you work under are not acceptable and your employer refuses to discuss any improvements, withdraw your labour and tell your employer you won't return to work until they negotiate a mutually acceptable settlement.

As an employer, I would assure you that such action would (quite rightfully) result in an immediate invitation to pick up your P45 as a result of your gross misconduct.

Flyboy152

Rotor wrote: »

Yes

Off topic
What do you fly boy?

What relevance has my occupation, to anything here? :huh:

Flyboy152

Squidd wrote: »

As an employer, I would assure you that such action would (quite rightfully) result in an immediate invitation to pick up your P45 as a result of your gross misconduct.

Then be prepared for a tribunal for wrongful dismissal.

Squidd

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Then be prepared for a tribunal for wrongful dismissal.

Always more than prepared. If people want to waste their time and money, that's their choice.

Rotor

Flyboy152 wrote: »

What relevance has my occupation, to anything here? :huh:

Just interested
Hence " off topic":kisses3:

KME91

Squidd wrote: »

Always more than prepared. If people want to waste their time and money, that's their choice.

If the action is part of a legal trade union ballot then you will lose. Trade union activities such as this are protected in law. Dismissal for carrying out trade union activities is an automatic unfair dismissal.