puppy is driving us crazy

jazzyman01

We never used paper. I also used to take my puppy out regularly and praised her to the hilt when she actually did something. We had a few accidents and a few sleepless nights, but very few.

Did always wonder what the neighbours thought if they looked out of the window late in the evening and saw me dancing and clapping my hands with a small fur bundle watching on.....

Caroline_a

darlyd wrote: »

I have explained above, he goes on the patio, garden is not good at the moment until he has had all his jabs. Cat's and fox mess etc.

I remove him for his own safety

Jabs wont make any difference to coming into contact with cats. Foxes are a different issue and he and all your family will still be at risk from Weils disease from the fox's urine as I said in my previous post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leptospirosis That link will give you details, including how it can affect humans.

If foxes are in your garden, they are probably coming on to your patio too. Your other dog will be at risk from the diseases they carry too.

Are you saying that you remove him from your other dog for his safety? It is rare that a !!!!! will attack a pup for playing. She will put him in his place, yes, but not attack, and if she did I would seriously consider taking him back to the rescue place as you will need to leave them alone at some point and you cannot remove when you are not there. Pups do play and test the patience of other dogs, but the other dog will give punishment when they have had enough, and this will usually be in the form of rolling him over and making sure he understands who is boss. If you don't allow this, both dogs will be confused, as you are condoning his bad behaviour to her by not allowing her to admonish him.

Beckyy

I would get rid of the paper all together, and don't use anythng like puppy pads etc. They just teach the puppy that it's okay to go indoors whch is not what you want. Take him out at regular intervals , praise the good and ignore the bad (even it it's just outside the back door). Make sure he goes out after food/water/waking up/before bed and every half an hour at first. f he has accidents in the middle of the night then set your alarm to get up and take him out when he usually needs to go. Use a word when he goes so that he learns to associate it, like 'go pee' or 'be clean'. say it every time he goes outside, and eventually he will go on command.

Puppy pads etc. are just marketing scams.

Rubbing any dogs nose is pee and poo is abuse, not training - what does your husband think it will achieve? because it certainly won't make a puppy realise that he needs to go outside. It will just make him scared of you and of going to the toilet. Never do it, please.

The general rule is that a puppy can hold wee for a max of 1 hour for every month of their life, which means at the moment you're lucky if your pup can hold it for more than 2 hours. Make sure you take him out regularly, accidents are YOUR fault for letting them happen, not his. Toilet training can be hard work, good luck.

suki1964

TBH I found paper and pads a complete waste of time and space - every pip I have had thought it was shredding stuff and just made a mess of any lying about the house

My trick - I lived in the kitchen with the pup for the first three or four weeks basically cos that was the only room without carpets so any pee and poo accidents were easily mopped up with no fuss

They were accidents as pup was taken out the garden to do his business every hour - and we stayed out till done

Theres a million threads on puppy training here - all say the same - praise the good - outdoors - ignore the mistakes. No way on earth do you punish a pup for the mistake you the humans have made by not giving the pup access to the outside

As for the older dog and new pup together - let them get on with it - they will find their level

esmf73

I am given to understand that it is almost unheard of for older dogs to attack pups - as if they realise that they are babies and are learning. My 9 yr old dog was great around our pup - we just had to rehome her when she was 18m due to my eldest child. Just keep an eye on the dogs when they're together and let them get on with it. best of luck

ermintrudey

If hubby threatens to put puppys nose in it again... threaten to put hubbys nose in it to see how he'd like it

but seriously, the advice give already is good. Take pup out every hour slowly extending it to every two hours, and never ever leave the puppy all night without going out.

good luck! puppies are very hard work

zaksmum

I also wouldn't bother with pads. I took my puppies out every hour during the day, made a huge fuss of them when they went where they were supposed to, and said a loud NO!! when they had accidents indoors, pointing to what they'd done.

My older dog was 5 when I got the puppy and he did drive her mad at first. He used to try to pinch her food - she picked him up and threw him across the room and he never did that again! He'd also nip her, and she let him know it wasn't allowed at all. He now has total respect for her, she's the boss and he's happy with that. She's 8 now and he's 3 and they adore each other.

Yours will be the same, OP. They will find their own way.

viktory

Another vote for binning the paper and taking the pup out every hour. I would also agree with the advice to let the dogs sort themselves out - stop removing the pup when she hassles Molly - Molly will soon put the pup in his place. My two play fight a lot and the noise is scary - they never hurt each other though.

Darlyd

OK thank you guys for your reasurance.

No more paper. I mean He sleeps a lot anyway, I don't go to bed till 12-1am ish myself so I put him out for pee pee. Hubby is up for 4am for work, so he puts him out, Then I am down at 8am. So he is not going to long, We are having to close the door on his cage through the night though, in case one of the kids get up and come down, there is a stair gate on the kitchen door but I don't want to risk anything.

Molly is OK with him, She wants to play but as soon as he nips on her she to me goes for him? Or yeah could be just warning him. I don't know. I am worried for him, he is to small. Molly is weary though, she has changed since she had a telling off, I know maybe I should not of told her off, when he jumped on her when she was rolling on her back, she went for him, I shouted at her get in. Mother's reaction I guess, since then she been weary to go near him. But when I was at work, hubby said they were OK together... We will see.. Will keep you updated..

rising_from_the_ashes

darlyd wrote: »

Molly is OK with him, She wants to play but as soon as he nips on her she to me goes for him? Or yeah could be just warning him. I don't know.

Can't say I blame her for that! Pups can have razor sharp teeth (as I'm sure you'll know) so it probably hurts!


Has she got somewhere she can go and "get away" from him and have a quiet peaceful space of her own.

Also, make sure you spend some "Molly time" with her and give her loads of affection so she knows she's still "your baby" too.

It's not that long since you lost Sam so she may well still be grieving for him too. Fingers crossed they settle down - TBH if the pup leaves her alone she'll be OK but being older there will be times when she just can't "be bothered" with him and will want some space and peace - good luck.