DLA with OCD?

bestpud

dmg24 wrote: »

So you were suicidal, but your mate rang up and you thought 'it'll be nice to have a chat' and all was good with the world again. Surely the answer was to ring a friend when you were feeling 'suicidal', if it is so easy to make you happy again?

Out of interest, how were you testing speeds - do you have a few spare cars and a crash test dummy?

Hoping someone would notice and rush up to 'save' her IMO.

That would show her GP how wrong she is, wouldn't it!

I have no sympathy for those who threaten suicide when things dont go their way - none at all.

caela_2

bestpud wrote: »

Hoping someone would notice and rush up to 'save' her IMO.

That would show her GP how wrong she is, wouldn't it!

I have no sympathy for those who threaten suicide when things dont go their way - none at all.

You know what, just for you I do have one more thing to say. I genuinely pity you and your ignorance; you simply can't have much intellectual ability if your posts are in anyway a reflection of how you think, they are absolutely lacking any intuition or pragmatic thought, there is nothing creative in them. You say your are better but remain fixated with mental health threads and have nothing productive to say, perhaps you find consolation by distancing yourself from understanding other people's problems so that you can pretend you are watching from the protective isolation of your new found sanity. Do not post on any of my threads again because I do not want to hear from you until you can have something useful to say. I'm sure a lot of people would prefer for you to shut your mouth. I will be ignoring all future comments- does anyone know if I can block this user?

wottonby

sunnyone wrote: »

I can see why you were refused DLA for this and you alledged MH issues (alledged because you have no medical evidence to back you up) and it's right that you have been refused or anyone could just claim anything and get DLA.

So if I follow your line of reasoning, those that don't seek medical help (predominately those with serious mental health issues) will never get any help from the state for their needs and disabilities - which you say is a good thing, yet those that pester their GP and/or a consultant and continously complain about their so called needs and disabilities for maybe arthritis as an example, should quite rightly get all of the help they are entitled to!!

Go and spend some time down at your local MIND branch and find out just how few sufferers there are that actually admit they need medical help. My estimate is that well over 50% do not seek out any form of intervention as they believe that there is nothing wrong with them - it's the rest of the people that are 'crazy'. They only come to light when things go drastically wrong in their lives.

To say that those who are suffering serious mental health issues are less worthy of help from the state than someone with say Arthritis is disgusting and shameful!!

caela_2

Thanks to all of you who have been supportive on this thread, it has been truly refreshing to sound off against like minded people and have some great responses. Sadly, this type of thread has also attracted a good few trolls so I will be abandoning it now. However, it is a good example of how mental health problems are still misconstrued in today's society and hopefully people can learn from this.

Good luck to everyone

bestpud

OP - there is an ignore button you can use if you want to cherry pick posters.

:wave:

ineedyourrainbow

Caela I'm very sorry for the ignorant opinions you have recieved in this thread.
OCDUK.org has brilliant advice and a forum.

You have every reason to ignore those who have been glib because they don't understand and choose not to fight their ignorance.

bestpud -

I have no sympathy for those who threaten suicide when things dont go their way - none at all

Those who threaten suicide, are those who are ill. Nobody wants or needs your sympathy when empathy will do.

caela and others who have mental health issues in this thread, Ruby Wax has written a show called Losing It there is a wonderful interview on YouTube that Ruby did with David Frost where she explains the problems so well it starts straight away and goes on for a few minutes. It'll only take a few seconds to find, it's called Frost Over The World - The Dark Side of Comedy. Watch it, even those who don't suffer should see this.

I'm going to bow out of this thread now, my stress levels can't take it!

Hope everything works out ok for those who are struggling.

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle - Plato.

STOCKWIRE

caela wrote: »

Lol you make me laugh not sure we're reading the same thread maybe it makes you feel more sane if you can belittle me that's great if it can be therapeutic. I'm not revelling I'm trying to get help in what is currently a difficult time and also trying to get DLA which has been a confusing process with the GP saying I'm not entitled and basically ignoring all my symptoms so I was hoping to get some feedback and see if I have totally lost my mind lol! Seeing as I'm completely independent I'd love to know how I'm coming across helpless, especially when I'm fighting the whole DLA thing by myself which is an arduous process to say the least. I'm getting what I want, I doubt that renders me helpless and winging to be wrapped in cotton, I would describe it more as an empowering process. Not really sure we're on the same page, maybe it's not coming through in writing I guess you'd just have to know me. Thanks for trying to help anyway though, sadly I don't think I'll have too much to take away with me from it but I do appreciate the effort.

And no doubt do anything to get it !.

kezzygirl

caela wrote: »

Probably suicidal in that straight after the appointment I spent about two hours parked up and building up the courage to drive into a tree, testing speeds to see how fast I'd need to go and then lining my car up and waiting for enough people to pass so they wouldn't have to watch. It's difficult to tell if you're suicidal because at the end of the day, I didn't crash my car I took a call from my friend who I hadn't planned on speaking to but thought why not in these circumstances and she stopped me from doing it because she just cheered me up enough and distracted me from it for a while.

I guess you're not ever suicidal until you actually kill yourself is my point so at what stage can you prove you're suicidal? When you're dead or when you're in hospital? Or when you know you're PROBABLY going to do something stupid and go to get help.-Hence, I was probably suicidal because in all probability I was going to do something and wanted help before it was too late.

You're right about the help thing though which is the whole point of what I'm trying to do so hopefully I get something sorted out.

you can have suicidal ideation without plans and protective factors,suicidal plans with no intent but protective factors,or suicidal with plans,intent and no protective factors.you dont have to prove suicidality,just telling someone should be enough.Further to this,it should be noted that if u tell people it means u want help,that u dont want to commit suicide-if you really wanted to die,nothing would be said.

bestpud

kezzygirl wrote: »

.Further to this,it should be noted that if u tell people it means u want help,that u dont want to commit suicide-if you really wanted to die,nothing would be said.

That isn't actually correct - anyone with knowledge of mental health issues knows that. People do talk about suicide and then go on to actually do it.

However, there is a distinction to be made between desperate people who talk of killing themselves in order to get the attention they seek and genuinely suicidal people who mention their intention to another person.

kezzygirl

bestpud wrote: »

That isn't actually correct - anyone with knowledge of mental health issues knows that. People do talk about suicide and then go on to actually do it.-really?never knew that!

However, there is a distinction to be made between desperate people who talk of killing themselves in order to get the attention they seek-they are talking about it,which,like i said,means they want help and genuinely suicidal people who mention their intention to another person.

-genuinely suicidal people who again,like i said mention their intention-they want help.

argue/debate all u like about this, if someone is going to kill themselves,if they tell another their intention/plan/thoughts it means they want help.
and believe me love,i have knowledge of mental health issues so dont try and tell me about risk of suicide!

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