Unfair parking enforcement....clamping

Diamonds14

Flyboy152 wrote: »

You mean private land owners should have to turn their property over to trespassers without being able to stop them?

Spoken to people who live on this land, who have also been clamped while moving in, so where's the Trespassing in that case?

Flyboy152

Diamonds14 wrote: »

Since your so clever. Explain how I was ment to get into the sport centre that is now on this land. Also you have to park, get out of your car to WALK into the centre to see signs telling you where to park. A bit back to front if you ask me.

Most sensible people do not park in places that do not have signs telling them that the land is not a car park.

By the way do you work or own one of these clamping companies?

Aah....the usual accusation from those who can't be bothered to find somewhere to park. Accuse people of working for clamping companies; that'll get 'em. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

If this clamping company has done as you have said and you can prove it, it is probable, if you took them to court, you might win. You have already been given advice on what to do, take the information and do as you see fit with it.

Flyboy152

Diamonds14 wrote: »

Spoken to people who live on this land, who have also been clamped while moving in, so where's the Trespassing in that case?

If it is not their land and they don't have permission to park that vehicle there, it is trespass. If they do have permission and they haven't broken the terms and conditions of any lease, why have they not appealed?

fivetide

Bit concerned this thread seems to be giving the rubber stamp to intimidation and threats by 'clamping' firms.

I'm all for punishing people who park stupidly because they are idle (using disabled spaces etc) but to say these cowboy outfits are doing a good job is just not accurate. Perhaps, if they were a little more professional, less underhand and a lot less threatening then they wouldn't be on the verge of being banned.

5t.

Flyboy152

fivetide wrote: »

Bit concerned this thread seems to be giving the rubber stamp to intimidation and threats by 'clamping' firms.

I'm all for punishing people who park stupidly because they are idle (using disabled spaces etc) but to say these cowboy outfits are doing a good job is just not accurate. Perhaps, if they were a little more professional, less underhand and a lot less threatening then they wouldn't be on the verge of being banned.

5t.

No one is condoning the actions of thuggish operators, on the contrary, advice has been given on what to do if anyone comes across one. But there is also plenty of concern about when people park without any consideration for the landowner's right to exclude people from their property.

fivetide

Flyboy152 wrote: »

No one is condoning the actions of thuggish operators, on the contrary, advice has been given on what to do if anyone comes across one. But there is also plenty of concern about when people park without any consideration for the landowner's right to exclude people from their property.

But Diamonds has appealed as per instruction - twice, including by recorded delivery.

Unsurprisingly for a company operating like this they have taken no notice.

what do you think a CCJ will get him? I bet, nothing as they'll ignore it. While what you have said about appeals is technically correct the fact is it doesn't work. How are you so sure that a company operating in this manner aren't a scam job? To be honest how can they not be? By saying that it clearly isn't one you are condoning their behaviour.

As for other appeals, few will try it with a firm like this and the company knows it.

Agian, no harm in legitimate, well ordered firms enforcing private property but that is not what we are talking about here.
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JQ.

I avoid all these problems by not parking on private property without consent. It's quite a simple thing to do and has been very successful for the many years I've been driving.

In all seriousness, I have no issue with clampers being used to keep people off private property. However, the fees they charge appears to be a form of extortion and there should be some form of cap. A £375 release fee can be higher than the value of some cars. The fee should be no more than a parking ticket.

As for comments like "the signs weren't clear enough" - with the exception of the public highway, if there isn't a sign expressly telling me that I can park, I won't. People are just too lazy these days.

I can also understand why clampers might block a car - I'm sure they wouldn't fancy having their arm wrapped round someone's front wheel attaching a clamp whilst the driver has the opportunity to drive away, probably with the clamper's arm still attached to the car.

Finally, I need to ask a favour - could those who think it's ok to park on private property pm their addresses, my uncle needs somewhere to store his caravans, thanks.

Diamonds14

For those of you who keep on saying you shouldn't park on private land. Let me say once again this is a council owned sports centre that has just been built on their old college site. You have to drive on this road to get access to this centre. AGAIN... There are no clear and visible signs stating where to park, so are we ment to drive through the door of the sport centre. Then read the only 2 signs inside their sports centre which then say have you parked in the correct place. I agree people shouldn't park where their not suppose too but how do we know what Private or not if THERE ARE NO CLEAR VISIBLE SIGNS. Let me say, the clamper man did however show me a sign that was stuck up in a tree. This sign was so high, that my husband who is just under 6th tall had to tilt our camera upwards and zoom in to get a clear picture of their sign. It also states.... Vehicles clamped before a tow truck is called or is present on site is as follows: £125 for private cars, £180 for commercial vehicles and £250 for HGVs. AGAIN let me say he admitted he wasn't called out. There was no tow truck called or on site and finally I do not drive a HGV. So explain the £375 charge?

Flyboy152

Diamonds14 wrote: »

For those of you who keep on saying you shouldn't park on private land. Let me say once again this is a council owned sports centre that has just been built on their old college site. You have to drive on this road to get access to this centre. AGAIN... There are no clear and visible signs stating where to park, so are we ment to drive through the door of the sport centre. Then read the only 2 signs inside their sports centre which then say have you parked in the correct place. I agree people shouldn't park where their not suppose too but how do we know what Private or not if THERE ARE NO CLEAR VISIBLE SIGNS. Let me say, the clamper man did however show me a sign that was stuck up in a tree. This sign was so high, that my husband who is just under 6th tall had to tilt our camera upwards and zoom in to get a clear picture of their sign. It also states.... Vehicles clamped before a tow truck is called or is present on site is as follows: £125 for private cars, £180 for commercial vehicles and £250 for HGVs. AGAIN let me say he admitted he wasn't called out. There was no tow truck called or on site and finally I do not drive a HGV. So explain the £375 charge?

Because there are no signs saying, "Park Here."

I cannot explain the charge. Most people on this thread have agreed that the charge is grossly excessive and the reported behaviour of the operative was thuggish in the extreme, but it still doesn't detract from the point that you should have realised, as there were no signs saying, "Park Here," you have to accept some of the responsibility.

If the land is council owned (which is the first time this has been mentioned), what was their response, when you reported the behaviour of the clamping firm?

fivetide

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Because there are no signs saying, "Park Here."

I cannot explain the charge. Most people on this thread have agreed that the charge is grossly excessive and the reported behaviour of the operative was thuggish in the extreme, but it still doesn't detract from the point that you should have realised, as there were no signs saying, "Park Here," you have to accept some of the responsibility.

If the land is council owned (which is the first time this has been mentioned), what was their response, when you reported the behaviour of the clamping firm?

There are no signs outside my house saying "park here" but the absence of double yellows implies you can.

Feels like a Few Good Men at the moment - "Turn to the page of the book that says where the cafeteria is"

Given it is council owned, I would report it to them too as well as the appeal, indeed, send a copy to the council of the appeal and get the local rag on it. At worst these boys might lose their contract.

5t