Some advice for my friend please

blue_monkey_2

lozzy88 wrote: »

You can get the dog spayed before the 1st season also

saves even more hassle

Not that it is relevant to the help I need but no vet around here will spay before the 1st season - I've had this discussion before when we got our first dog and we asked around all the vets but they would not do it.

It CAN be done but can leave a dog immature and, also, if it is done too close to a bi tch coming into season can end up with her haemoraging because of the blood vessels. This advice was from the vets when we enquired about spaying before.

So we will be waiting and just have to be careful - she is on heat now and still going out for walks to places where it is quiet and she is lept on the lead. You just have to be sensible. There is no hassle really, just a lot of mopping and keeping her off my nice cream rug for a few weeks and being careful where you go for walks and making sure you are aware of other dogs around you.

The only real 'hassle' is having lost the money for training classes as we have not been able to go.

gettingready

CFC wrote: »

Don't be such a self righteous, unfeeling cow.

I am not, I did not put my dog through this ordeal.

Paradigm

I'd be sending the Vet an official letter of complaint demanding my fees back!

Anything more than 4-5 hours in labour without a pup & there is something wrong... you're saying it was 48 hrs ish? If true then that's negligence! Any vet having the letters after their name should know this!

Darlyd

gettingready wrote: »

WHY?

Yes, it is a terrible situation but WHY did you friend wanted for her dogs to have pups?

Sorry, when any of my lot is not well I never phone for advice, I get them to the vets ASAP.

Very, very upsetting situation BUT your friend selfishness caused this to her poor dog.

That is a horrid thing to say. And does not help the OP in anyway.

Errata

Was this her regular vet? The one that's been giving the dog annual check ups and vacs and anything else that needed attending to?

Darlyd

Paradigm wrote: »

I'd be sending the Vet an official letter of complaint demanding my fees back!

Anything more than 4-5 hours in labour without a pup & there is something wrong... you're saying it was 48 hrs ish? If true then that's negligence! Any vet having the letters after their name should know this!

I totally agree with this. I would defintly be writing to them and asking for your fees back. If anything I would go to a solicitor That is neglect! And disgusting. There should be an investigation into this. Also I would take it to my local MP.

This may be of some help to you http://www.rcvs.org.uk/home/

Such a sad time, Had tears in my eyes reading that.

trudij

What a horrible horrible thing to have to deal with - for your friend and her family, and also for you.

Didnt want to read this and run - but Im not sure that I can be much help to you, other than to suggest that you maybe just drop a letter to the vets saying that your friend is considering her position and she or her representitive will be in touch within a fortnight (or somkething like that) when it is not quite so raw.

Just thinking that there might be some sort of time scale that you should let them know you are going to complain - otherwise you run the risk of having "accepted" what happened??

Good luck - really hope that you and she can get satisfactory closure - even though nothing will bring the puppies back.

nikki702

sorry for your friend hope her dog makes a speedy recovery

Lozzy88

blue_monkey wrote: »

Not that it is relevant to the help I need but no vet around here will spay before the 1st season - I've had this discussion before when we got our first dog and we asked around all the vets but they would not do it.

It CAN be done but can leave a dog immature and, also, if it is done too close to a bi tch coming into season can end up with her haemoraging because of the blood vessels. This advice was from the vets when we enquired about spaying before.

So we will be waiting and just have to be careful - she is on heat now and still going out for walks to places where it is quiet and she is lept on the lead. You just have to be sensible. There is no hassle really, just a lot of mopping and keeping her off my nice cream rug for a few weeks and being careful where you go for walks and making sure you are aware of other dogs around you.

The only real 'hassle' is having lost the money for training classes as we have not been able to go.

Bloody hell i was just sayin

Fire_Fox

The way I am reading this, the vet was not the regular practice used by your friend? Many vets will provide an emergency service for animals not already registered, or not a regular client, on payment in advance. Doing otherwise is financial suicide for a business: the overheads - including paying locums - are there regardless of whether clients settle their accounts, and sadly shysters tell all their mates which practice is a soft touch. If you cannot lay your hands on £1200 when you've known for weeks the b*t*h is pregnant - credit or debit card usually suffices - then it's not unreasonable of a vet to wonder if you can lay your hands on that kind of money at all. I am truly saddened to read that a b*t*h and her pups suffered, but I don't think grief alone is a reason to try to ruin someone's career, to put a professional under the strain of dealing with a formal complaint or legal action. IMO it would be better for your friend to honour the memory of the lost pups by drawing something positive from something negative: to educate friends, relatives and colleagues so that this tragedy is not repeated?

If she really wants to investigate malpractice you need to formally request a copy of the full medical notes for the dog, an itemised and annotated bill then pay for the written opinion of another veterinarian and a solicitor, not the advice of MSE.