2007 Reg Car from Dealer MOT with Advisory

s_b

love the pictures but its a trade sold car
look at the advisories
trust me any play in any bush would have been advised

bigjl

Not really, a bush needs to be split for an automatic MOT failure, small amounts of wear won't fail the MOT, but can certainly affect both the handling and the geometry, and also result in odd tyre wear charcteristics.

One of the big problems with cars developed from the Golf platform was odd tyre wear after a few miles, no faults were found, no clunks or bangs, no rattles, just had to live with it or polybush the suspension.

Have a look at how many bushes there are in the Golf/Octavia platform, I did drive a Vrs that had been polybushed, it was an exPlod car with mega miles, it felt as tight as a new car though, nothing else was touched, just bushes.
MK2 Octavia

pitkin2020

worn out bushes would have marked as a failure but play would be marked as an advisory.

pitkin2020

bigjl wrote: »

I would check it isn't an ex Private Hire car, and ask for at least a couple of part worns on the front, so you don't have to put tyres on straight away.

Don't forget that recent VW's are not the troublefree cars that some would make you think they are.

Two blokes at work had 2007 Passat's, one an 07 plate, one a 56 plate, both kept them for less than 6 months, both were troublesomes, one bloke bought a mk4 Mondeo and loves it, the other bought an old shape Vectra with the old DTi engine.

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Guess your mate bought a petrol mondeo as the mondeo TDCi is the biggest heap of **** running around, prone to injector failure cost of 1k to fix, prone to DMF failure another 1k whilst the DMF is on its way out it kills the starter motor. As for the vectra with the DTi engine that isn't much better as they are prone to fuel pump failure around the 100k mark, again another 1k job. New diesels are great but they have become so unreliable its unreal. Atleast VW can make a pretty bulletproof diesel engine, of course things go wrong with them but they aren't as common as the likes of ford/vauxhall.

mikey72

So what happened to worn inside edges being just too much toe out?

bigjl

mikey72 wrote: »

So what happened to worn inside edges being just too much toe out?

Read it all from the beginning, don't just pop up with a snide comment, you will see that I mentioned both possibilities.

What is your constructive comment then, you seem interested in other threads that all comments are relevant to the OP, even if the OP posted in 2008.

bigjl

pitkin2020 wrote: »

Guess your mate bought a petrol mondeo as the mondeo TDCi is the biggest heap of **** running around, prone to injector failure cost of 1k to fix, prone to DMF failure another 1k whilst the DMF is on its way out it kills the starter motor. As for the vectra with the DTi engine that isn't much better as they are prone to fuel pump failure around the 100k mark, again another 1k job. New diesels are great but they have become so unreliable its unreal. Atleast VW can make a pretty bulletproof diesel engine, of course things go wrong with them but they aren't as common as the likes of ford/vauxhall.

Yawn, did you read all of that on Honest John then.

VW, are by no means the builders of rock solid cars, I had a DSG Passat go bang on me, it was the DMF that took out the gearbox, I did comment about this a while ago, glad I didn't have to pay for that.

DTi fuel pump for £1k, are you buying them from Vauxhall, you need to shop around, maybe ask on the forum for proper advice.

DMF on a Mondeo costing £1k, are you buying from Ford or what?

Lets not forget that the Sharon/Galaxy/Alhambra was also very prone to DMF issues.

The problems with the Mondeo where largely sorted with the upgraded parts from about 2004 onwards, mine is on the original at over 160k, original fuel pump, injectors aswell actually, as is Hammymans Mondeo, I believe his car is also on this kind of mileage..

The new Passat, 2006 onwards, is not a patch on the old one according to many whose opinion isn't swayed by advertising income for the magazine. And the old one had issues with odd tyre wear due to worn suspension parts and was also a common car to fail the MOT on front suspension wear.

A lot of VW's have had issues with injector wear and fuel pump issues in N America, American forums are full of such comments and threads.

I think you need to form your own opinions from personal experience or the witnessed experiences of you peers, otherwise you are just repeating rumour.

And no, they didn't buy a petrol Mondeo, that would be rather stupid don't you think.

Though they were certainly glad to get rid of their Passats, almost certainly to be bought later by somebody that will defend the superb build quality and reliability of their VW, even whilst spending money on it and getting fed up trying to solve the odd tyre wear and trying to figure out why they now have a sore back after driving it.

However I would never try to put people off their intended purchase, though I will happily put forward things that I know about myself, or things that have happened to friends and relay this information, though i won't continue unsubstantiated internet rumours.

If you want a well built VW then buy a Skoda, for some reason they seem to be able to build a more reliable car out of VW parts than VW at the moment, wierd, but there you go.

The Met Police bought some old shape Passats, back in 2004/5, they used them for the Dog Units, but they never replaced tham with VW's though. Funny that..............

Overpriced and not as reliable as many think, though I believe the main issue was the soggy handling and suspension wear according to the Dog Handler I spoke to a while ago.

Funny how these are normally one driver vehicles and are the least hammered vehicles in the Met.........

mikey72

bigjl wrote: »

Read it all from the beginning, don't just pop up with a snide comment, you will see that I mentioned both possibilities.

What is your constructive comment then, you seem interested in other threads that all comments are relevant to the OP, even if the OP posted in 2008.

That was Kilty, you jumped in with polybushing everything.
The op would be better off getting the tracking checked first, probably more cost effective?

Hammyman

pitkin2020 wrote: »

Guess your mate bought a petrol mondeo as the mondeo TDCi is the biggest heap of **** running around, prone to injector failure cost of 1k to fix, prone to DMF failure another 1k whilst the DMF is on its way out it kills the starter motor.

Utter rubbish. Firstly its nowhere near £1k for injectors. Secondly, you hear about those that do but not those that don't. The injectors, clutch and DMF on my MK3 Mondeo TDCi are all the original ones and its on 153k. When are mine going to fail?

As for the vectra with the DTi engine that isn't much better as they are prone to fuel pump failure around the 100k mark, again another 1k job.

My mates is on 250k, when is his going to fail?

How do you keep a straight face whilst spouting such horse manure? I'm not saying it doesn't happen but its not as bad as you're claiming.

Hammyman

bigjl wrote: »

Indeed this Passat is a really strong contender for cheap wheels, and has the strong as rock 1.9 tdi engine, I presume it will have the PD engine, slow with only 105bhp, but a remap will sort that, the 105tdi Octavia could be easily remapped to over 120bhp.

BHP is largely irrelevant with diesels, its the torque that counts. Thats why there is little to be gained performance wise buying a Mondeo ST TDCi over the TDCi 130.