Interview under caution

GlasweJen

redbu wrote: »

I would say that you are misled there.

The police do get involved at the request of the DWP, and not just to arrest somebody.

The police will take over the investigation obtaining all of the DWP papers, appoint a detective and will submit their papers to the CPS. Once given the green light to proceed, the police will charge under the Fraud Act. It is likely also that other unrelated charges could follow, depending on what is turned up by the police when they carry out their 'normal' 5am arrest and proceed to carry out a search of the property.
Such charges carry a sentence of up to 10 years.

I have known many such cases, which generally come about if the DWP can't seem to make any headway due to reluctant witnesses, and failure to co-operate by the claimant.
It shouldn't happen, but I am aware of two cases that were handed over to the police by the DWP because the claimants 'upset' the DWP investigator. They threatened them - one with a shotgun!

I'm sure someone else posted a story like this before, I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now.

sumsup

I agree that you must disclose this information when you apply for the job. You would probably still get a CRB Disclosure, but the issue may appear on it, especially if you are convicted. You could write a statement about the situation on a separate piece of paper, seal it and address it Confidential to the Headteacher, then put " see enclosed envelope" on the application form.

Although this is not a Child Protection issue, most school admin positions involve handing money. To be honest, the school would find it hard to justify exposing themselves to known potential financial risk, even though you have repaid and are obviously very regretful. Good luck.

welshsue

We had a similar thing. Not our fault, mis information from the job centre caused us to receive an overpayment. Interviewed under caution, went to court and paying it back. I went for a job at a local special needs school and told the bursar about this at the interview, she said it was nothing that the school would be concerned about and would not affect the job, which I got.

make_me_wise

Buttercup1972 wrote: »

The problem is the application form states that you have to put down any reason you feel you may not obtain a crb disclosure. I really want this job but I feel if I admit anything I will be immediately rejected. (the police were not involved in the caution).

At the moment though you dont know if you will be prosecuted. As I understand it you have had an interview under caution and are waiting for the outcome of this.

It could be that you will have to pay a penalty on top of what you wrongly recieved, that you may get a caution which I believe goes on the benefit peoples file but would not show up on a CRB check or they may decide to prosecute and take you to court.

At this stage there is nothing concrete to declare. You have paid back the money too. Maybe I am wrong on this as I have not personally been in this position. My feeling though is why shoot yourself in the foot when you dont have to.

misssmcc

i had to do a CRB check for my job, i remember the form stated any convictions or pending convictions (not those exact words but something to that effect), to my understanding it means if you have been previously charged and prosecuted, or charged but not yet prosecuted you have to declare it. you haven't been charged or prosecuted, so i dont think you need to declare it.

dmg24

GlasweJen wrote: »

I'm sure someone else posted a story like this before, I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now.

Good spot! I wonder when he'll start telling us about his stays in prison with the Kray brothers?

5823yil

My mother inlaw worked at a prison.. I had been cautioned for sometng not fraud. I got a job with a security company and was worried but nothing ever came of it and was drpped. She told me that it would only show up if u were convicted.
She was right as the credit check was clear..and still there now so i worried for nothing.

Guess the issue here is you dont know the outcome yet. perhaps contact them and see whats happening as it may be closed and you were never informed or got letter.

pleasedelete

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GlasweJen

dmg24 wrote: »

Good spot! I wonder when he'll start telling us about his stays in prison with the Kray brothers?

It's like playing a game of virtual "where's wally" but instead of looking for a guy in a stripey top you're looking for a guy with the ropey stories. We could market this as a game on Dragon's Den and make a fortune, call it "where's Andy?"

make_me_wise

redbu wrote: »

I would say that you are misled there.

The police do get involved at the request of the DWP, and not just to arrest somebody.

The police will take over the investigation obtaining all of the DWP papers, appoint a detective and will submit their papers to the CPS. Once given the green light to proceed, the police will charge under the Fraud Act. It is likely also that other unrelated charges could follow, depending on what is turned up by the police when they carry out their 'normal' 5am arrest and proceed to carry out a search of the property.
Such charges carry a sentence of up to 10 years.

I have known many such cases, which generally come about if the DWP can't seem to make any headway due to reluctant witnesses, and failure to co-operate by the claimant.
It shouldn't happen, but I am aware of two cases that were handed over to the police by the DWP because the claimants 'upset' the DWP investigator. They threatened them - one with a shotgun!

What alot of bull^*!". This isn't a huge fraud case. The OP has already stated that all money wrongly claimed has been paid back. That would hardly be possible if he/she had taken thousands. If there is a prosecution it rarely leads to someone going to prison. Even with the larger cases that are reported the sentence is usually weeks or months.

Appointing detectives, 5am arrests and searching properties!!!! You live in cuckoo land.