Car Tyres Help

jase1

> So at least we know brand new Pirellis are better than bald Marshal's.

Aye, useful consumer info that one

As I said in another thread, I have Pirelli P6000s and Admirals on the same car, both sets at around 5-6mm. The Pirellis always let go before the Admirals do. Given that Marshal are nowt but another budget Khumo brand, I can't see them being much different.

And I can confirm that if you have one set of tyres "stickier" than the other, put the sticky ones on the back. When the Mitsu lets go (better Admirals on the back), it understeers, which is easy to correct (lift off). When the Ford lets go (better Toyos on the front) it oversteers which is a proper handful to correct (fishtailing all over the place!).

mikey72

It's more fun though.

goodgirl80

But old Marshalls are better than the completely smooth ones I had on before

mikey72

They should be a good tyre, and I wonder if the guy I quoted would have said Pirellis were rubbish if they had no tread left on them.
Even chinese tyres are raising their game, they've pushed Indian rubber to the bottom at the moment.
If you look at places like mytyres to see what they sell in germany, there are a lot of "budget" brands on there, so europe must like them.

jase1

Which brands are Indian?

I know about CEAT (and I actually thought they were semi-reasonable from the little I've heard about them) and Apollo (again I thought the Acelere was a fair tyre) but I'm not sure about any others.

I've half a mind to put a set of Goodrides on the Mitsu next time just for the crack ... they can't be *that* bad surely? (They've had some monstrous reviews of late!).

thenudeone

Stephen_Leak wrote: »

I'm going to put my head on the block here and say that tyre speed and load ratings are a bit academic for everyday driving.

I'm afraid that argument is a bit pants. It's not everyday driving that matters, it's the extremes.

It's exactly when a car is fully loaded that it's most likely to be doing long stretches at high speeds on the autoroute.

It may not be very often but when I have the family plus a boot loaded with camping gear, and a roofbox, I want to make sure the tyres are up to it.

I have an MPV which weighs 1.8 Tonnes and requires 98 load rating tyres, which are very difficult to find. But there is no way I would try to save a few quid by fitting lower rating tyres.

mikey72

jase1 wrote: »

Which brands are Indian?

I know about CEAT (and I actually thought they were semi-reasonable from the little I've heard about them) and Apollo (again I thought the Acelere was a fair tyre) but I'm not sure about any others.

I've half a mind to put a set of Goodrides on the Mitsu next time just for the crack ... they can't be *that* bad surely? (They've had some monstrous reviews of late!).

CEAT were the main one, and then Apollo, the others were Falcon and MRF.
I may have to eat my words eventually, as some Vredestein may be made by Apollo now, and Falcon are making Dunlops. So, like the chinese has, they'll reverse engineer into their own brands.
But not yet by the look of it.

I was given a pair of CEAT's and to be honest, the review on tyretest was so bad, it's put me of using them.

http://www.tyretest.com/summercar_tyres/ceat/tornado/index.html

Goodrides come out a lot better.

(And that's from someone who gave a pair of heros a try over winter, and was impressed)

bigjl

I am happy to admit that my budget Sava tyres are comfy and fairly grippy, even on recent wet roads that had been dry for weeks so very greasy. I doubt they would outgrip the Toyos but i have been pleasantly surprised.

They aren't as smooth at low speeds than premium.tyres and they do have a very soft compound so i doubt they will last long.

I reckon i may leave them.on till i sell the car which will be soon, but i am buying four Michelin Primacy tyres at the end of the month and if the Mondeo stays i have the option of fitting them, i will admit that i am a tyre snob and 20% off a set of four is an offer too good to waste.

Still wouldn't have a LingLong though, but the Nankang NS2 is another good budget tyre. Quiet, grips well in the dry or wet and wore well.

Woody._2

bigjl wrote: »

I reckon i may leave them.on till i sell the car which will be soon, but i am buying four Michelin Primacy tyres at the end of the month and if the Mondeo stays i have the option of fitting them, i will admit that i am a tyre snob and 20% off a set of four is an offer too good to waste.

Sound like womans logic, buying tyres because they're 20% off and you don't need them, !!!!!! you on?:wall:

bigjl

Quite simply because that as night follows day tyres wear out, I do nigh on 30k a year nowadays so the Sava tyres won't last forever.

Also the simple fact is my car takes 205/55/16 which is one of the most common sizes of tyres when it comes to family cars or small mpv's such as Scenic or C-Max.

You are aware that 20% off a set of four Michelins at my local Costco is nearly £70, or basically four Michelin Primacy HP's for the price of cheapies, not womens logic atall, but a very sensible idea since these Costco offers only come once a year these days.