Sending Bailiffs in to HMRC

50Twuncle

I am contemplating sending in the Bailiffs in to HMRC to collect my tax which I have overpaid in the last 12 months - HMRC have ignored all my letters to them - sending me, incorrect tax codes for year 2011/12 - so I see no option...

Has anyone sucessfully sent in the bailiffs to a government department ?
If so - what were they able to recover of any value ?

gordikin

Popcorn time!

CoolHotCold

Lets see where this is going

Should be intresting

Azari

21Twinkle wrote: »

I am contemplating sending in the Bailiffs in to HMRC to collect my tax which I have overpaid in the last 12 months - HMRC have ignored all my letters to them - sending me, incorrect tax codes for year 2011/12 - so I see no option...

Has anyone sucessfully sent in the bailiffs to a government department ?
If so - what were they able to recover of any value ?

Before you could send in bailiffs you would need to go to court to prove the debt, then if they didn't pay you, you would have to go to court again to get an order before you could send in bailiffs.

Let's be sensible, this is not going to happen.

I have heard of bailiffs being sent into a bank, though! :rotfl:

maninthestreet

Send them to 11 Downing St. instead.

michaelvintner

21Twinkle wrote: »

If so - what were they able to recover of any value ?

89 members of staff doing a job that one person could do. Don't be surpised they have not responded to your letters. They are still probably filling in the 256 forms they need to fill in before the postboy has the authority to open the envelope.

Then there is will be another 543 forms to fill in before someone is allowed to read it. Then they will have to fill in 387 forms to arrange a meeting to discuss it. This meeting will then be cancelled as one of the forms has been filled in, in blue and not black ink. Therefore all 387 forms will have to be submitted again.

After the meeting, which will take 8 days and cost the taxpayer £67000 your letter will then be authorised for responce following the filling in of another 674 forms.

It will then be handed to a secretary who will pull off a template response letter from her computer. She will then have to fill in 57 forms to get the authorisation for a senior manager to sign it.

Your letter will then be handed to a senior manager who will sign it with a £15000 pen paid for by the tax payer on his £57000 desk.

It will then finally be sent back to the postroom where after filling in 386 forms the postboy will be allowed to put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and take it down the postbox.

You should get a reply to it by the year 2025.

vyle

michaelvintner wrote: »

89 members of staff doing a job that one person could do. Don't be surpised they have not responded to your letters. They are still probably filling in the 256 forms they need to fill in before the postboy has the authority to open the envelope.

Then there is will be another 543 forms to fill in before someone is allowed to read it. Then they will have to fill in 387 forms to arrange a meeting to discuss it. This meeting will then be cancelled as one of the forms has been filled in, in blue and not black ink. Therefore all 387 forms will have to be submitted again.

After the meeting, which will take 8 days and cost the taxpayer £67000 your letter will then be authorised for responce following the filling in of another 674 forms.

It will then be handed to a secretary who will pull off a template response letter from her computer. She will then have to fill in 57 forms to get the authorisation for a senior manager to sign it.

Your letter will then be handed to a senior manager who will sign it with a £15000 pen paid for by the tax payer on his £57000 desk.

It will then finally be sent back to the postroom where after filling in 386 forms the postboy will be allowed to put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and take it down the postbox.

You should get a reply to it by the year 2025.

*looks back at his time working at the HMRC*

Lol....pens... I'd have loved a pen. While the paperwork you mention was non-existant, to get anything from the stationary cupboard was a Tolkien-esque quest.

And interesting fact - the senior manager had to hot desk, she didn't have her own, and she used to borrow 20p pens from other staff members.

It was poorly managed during my time, but if anything, we were chronically understaffed, unless you think that 6 people are enough to manually check the tax codes for everyone in the county, as well as every tax return and fixing the mistakes from the new (at the time) automated tax code checking system in newcastle, while also doing the filing and responding to complaints correspondence AND managing the post room.

Yes, the same people who dealt with the forms also dealt with all the post. That's six people, getting through around 8000 forms a week, while working for minimum wage. And when I left (making that five people), the aim was to get rid of all part time staff by 2010, and three of those other staff members were part time, which means there are probably two people working there now, as there has been a recruitment freeze on that office since 2008.

That might be why you don't get any replies, because there's probably two people doing the work of thirty for far less money than you're earning.

fluffnutter

michaelvintner wrote: »

89 members of staff doing a job that one person could do. Don't be surpised they have not responded to your letters. They are still probably filling in the 256 forms they need to fill in before the postboy has the authority to open the envelope.

Then there is will be another 543 forms to fill in before someone is allowed to read it. Then they will have to fill in 387 forms to arrange a meeting to discuss it. This meeting will then be cancelled as one of the forms has been filled in, in blue and not black ink. Therefore all 387 forms will have to be submitted again.

After the meeting, which will take 8 days and cost the taxpayer £67000 your letter will then be authorised for responce following the filling in of another 674 forms.

It will then be handed to a secretary who will pull off a template response letter from her computer. She will then have to fill in 57 forms to get the authorisation for a senior manager to sign it.

Your letter will then be handed to a senior manager who will sign it with a £15000 pen paid for by the tax payer on his £57000 desk.

It will then finally be sent back to the postroom where after filling in 386 forms the postboy will be allowed to put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and take it down the postbox.

You should get a reply to it by the year 2025.

What a witty expos! of the public sector. Most functions of the HMRC are now outsourced to private companies... which perhaps accounts for the dip in service.

It's also well-acknowledged that HMRC is chronically and critically understaffed.

moonrakerz

Azari wrote: »

Before you could send in bailiffs you would need to go to court to prove the debt, then if they didn't pay you, you would have to go to court again to get an order before you could send in bailiffs.

Don't let little inconsequential things like that ruin a good ill-infomed whinge :D

Sharon87

I managed to get my tax refund a few weeks after I sent them a letter. Then again this was November time so middle of the tax year. So many people will be asking for tax back in April/May they probably have a back log.

geordieracer

CoolHotCold wrote: »

Lets see where this is going

Should be intresting

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