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Should people wanting to sell hang in there?
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no i didn't miss any point, i wasn't even referring to any of what you've just posted.You missed my point again, landlords pushed rents up. ie on simple terms.
i'm referring to your post that every property was being bought by BTL's locking out FTB's, that's not true.
i'm still waiting for the desperate Devon muddler to try and back up that point tooI would also like to point out that its the landlords that force FTB's to enrich landlords, they are the ones buying everything0 -
no, no Dervprof that wasn't evidence taht i questioned, it was evidence that suited your agenda.No problem.
I was simply showing chucky some "evidence" that LLs were putting up their rents.
here's exactly what i was questioning, nothing to do with raising rents.
this keeps on being said on here without it being backed up by anything credible apart from random blogs on the internet or a post from HPC.co.ukI thought mortgages where fine, just the house prices where too high.
I would also like to point out that its the landlords that force FTB's to enrich landlords, they are the ones buying everything and they are the ones rising rents to feed there own greed...
I do agree that we need to get building... fast.0 -
no i didn't miss any point, i wasn't even referring to any of what you've just posted.
i'm referring to your post that every property was being bought by BTL's locking out FTB's, that's not true.
i'm still waiting for the desperate Devon muddler to try and back up that point too
I thought I ended that line of discussion by simply claiming you were a bit of a nob?0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Do you really need that proven?
Hamish posted a report that someone undertook some time ago which set out to prove this very point (can't be bothered to find it).
The conclusion was that the boom in BTL had pushed up the price of property by 7%. Given that house prices have risen 125% it really doesn't account for much does it.
[edit] here's an FT article about the report0 -
you wish Mr Muddle. is that the best you can do when you get found out when you can't answer a question.Graham_Devon wrote: »I thought I ended that line of discussion by simply claiming you were a bit of a nob?
seeing that we're getting personal, i'll join in. remind me why your girlfriend left you again, was it because you racked up so much debt?
it must have been tough, never mind though.0 -
it's not important, Mr Muddle has taken this thread where he wants it.Blacklight wrote: »Hamish posted a report that someone undertook some time ago which set out to prove this very point (can't be bothered to find it).
The conclusion was that the boom in BTL had pushed up the price of property by 7%. Given that house prices have risen 125% it really doesn't account for much does it.
[edit] here's an FT article about the report
away from the actual facts that prove him wrong, yet again.....0 -
no, no Dervprof that wasn't evidence taht i questioned, it was evidence that suited your agenda.
here's exactly what i was questioning, nothing to do with raising rents.
Sorry, I thought I was just giving you some evidence of......
"and they are the ones rising rents to feed there own greed..."
I was just backing up part of what Percy1983 typed, nothing to do with any agenda, that I may or may not have.30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.0 -
The question cannot be answered Chuckles.
You have taken a beeline for the word "everything". You have then asked for evidence to back up this assertion, when everything was simply used to amplify the posters point.
You have then, knowingly, taken the literal sense of the word "everything" and made an argument out of it, asking for evidence of this assertion, when you know full well there is absolutely no evidence that can be given.
Even after this is stated, you still continue on, suggesting the point can't be answered and there is no evidence, and that somehow, others are therefore making things up.
Now, you could argue that the poster should therefore not have used the word "everything". However, the sense that the poster used the word in, is used day in day out to amplify a situation.
"Everything is screwed". "I've messed up everything". "Everything is great".
Even on question time, MP's are using the word "everything" to make a point. Can you imagine the idiot in the audience putting up his hand...."cough...errr, excuse me...do you have eveidence that labour messed up EVERYTHING....and I do mean everything, in the literal sense of the word...".
People would just groan. Some may laugh at the level of pedance being used. Some may feel sorry for the member of the audience. Either way, no one would take it seriously....as you seem to be trying desperately to do.
It's called mountains oout of molehills. Generally used to gain attention. My point is now made. No doubt you will accuse me of muddling.....deflecting attention.....changing the subject. However, I believe this IS the subject and this is a pretty indepth discussion about what appears to be, your issue.0 -
as expected you can't answer it and have put together a longish post in your usual style deflecting, squirming and twisting everything....Graham_Devon wrote: »The question cannot be answered Chuckles.
here's something for you to read and 100% guaranteed not understand at all claiming it's assumptions and estimates bla bla bla
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/507390/pdf/684943.pdf
it's called "Buy-to-let mortgage lending and the impact on UK house prices" - obviously not very relevant...0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »People would just groan. Some may laugh at the level of pedance being used. Some may feel sorry for the member of the audience. Either way, no one would take it seriously....
It's called mountains out of molehills. Generally used to gain attention. .
Oh, the irony, that YOU of all people would have the nerve to post that.
:rotfl:
Well done Graham. I'm actually speechless for once.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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