do a need a tv licence to buy a tv ?

kaya

hudgebadger wrote: »

From the TV licensing website:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology-top8/

"Many TV channels are now available to watch over the internet. If you’re watching programmes on a computer or laptop as they're being shown on TV, then you need a TV Licence. However, you don’t need to be covered by a licence if you’re only using ‘on-demand’ services to watch programmes after they have been shown on TV. So, you need a licence to watch any channel live online, but you wouldn’t need one to use BBC iPlayer to catch up on an episode of a programme you missed, for example."
That covers watching on computers


that information is incorrect, you do not need a licence to "watch any channel live online", somebody should email them and tell them, the text should read "to watch BBC live online" as they are the only channel who are allowed to enforce a licence by royal decree, the correct information is viewable to all for free on the BBCi players website under the section "terms and conditions"
the licence people from the bbc have been lying for years and misleading you into believing you need a licence to own a tv or watch any channel other than BBC , its just a big scam to keep the BBC afloat as its their main source of revenue, if we all refused to buy a licence the bbc would probably collapse and the reason they have the royal decree is because they are supposed to remain impartial and unbiased and "for the people", which they clearly are not and have not been for many years.

Lokolo

asbokid wrote: »

Don't mean to be funny but you went to university to WORK, not to watch TV, whether live or recorded, unless of course it was a degree in media studies.

*sarcastic mode on * Yes because at uni all you do is work and sleep *sarcastic mode off*

kaya

JasX wrote: »

Wouldn't necessarily recommennd the monitor route myself as who knows what you'll want to do in future.

However as for the online ambiguity wasn;t there a site sonewhere dedicated to streaming certain shows/events with a 5 second delay purely to get round the 'not live' TV license restriction

yep, its called "catchup tv"

23n1th

kaya wrote: »

hudgebadger wrote: »

From the TV licensing website:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology-top8/

"Many TV channels are now available to watch over the internet. If you’re watching programmes on a computer or laptop as they're being shown on TV, then you need a TV Licence. However, you don’t need to be covered by a licence if you’re only using ‘on-demand’ services to watch programmes after they have been shown on TV. So, you need a licence to watch any channel live online, but you wouldn’t need one to use BBC iPlayer to catch up on an episode of a programme you missed, for example."
That covers watching on computers


that information is incorrect, you do not need a licence to "watch any channel live online", somebody should email them and tell them, the text should read "to watch BBC live online" as they are the only channel who are allowed to enforce a licence by royal decree, the correct information is viewable to all for free on the BBCi players website under the section "terms and conditions"
the licence people from the bbc have been lying for years and misleading you into believing you need a licence to own a tv or watch any channel other than BBC , its just a big scam to keep the BBC afloat as its their main source of revenue, if we all refused to buy a licence the bbc would probably collapse and the reason they have the royal decree is because they are supposed to remain impartial and unbiased and "for the people", which they clearly are not and have not been for many years.

I was just about to mention that myself. We have to pay the Licence what is it £150 a year for one channel and a few off shoots. The rest of the channels are paid for by advertising.

I wonder if it went to court and you told them you were watching live TV but not the BBC producing your TV which wasn't tuned for the BBC.

Thats the thing with this that annoys me, by law you are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The TLEA think you are guilty until proven innocent.

asbokid

The TV licence fee (spit) does fund certain programming on the commercial channels, including ITV and C4.. The statutory fee subsidises the production of Channel 4's news propaganda, for example. Last time I checked those state subsidies to the commercial TV operators amounted to several hundred million quid a year.

MackemPunk

You only need a t.v license if you plan to watch or record programmes as they are broadcast, any other uses are fine without a license.
Remember crapita have no rights to come and check your house, if one of their 'officers' turn up, don't engage in conversation and don't let them in, just shut the door, they will act the same as any pushy salesman( as thats what they really are) and try to convince you that you need a license even when you dont

cajef

The licence also funds maintenance, repairs, links and cabling etc. of the transmitters which are used to broadcast all terrestrial channels not just BBC.

asbokid

MackemPunk wrote: »

You only need a t.v license if you plan to watch or record programmes as they are broadcast, any other uses are fine without a license.
Remember crapita have no rights to come and check your house, if one of their 'officers' turn up, don't engage in conversation and don't let them in, just shut the door, they will act the same as any pushy salesman( as thats what they really are) and try to convince you that you need a license even when you dont

To be honest, I always invite the TVLA officers in. In fact I insist they come in.

Don't be put off when they claim they have "no statutory powers of entry". They don't need statutory powers. So long as you invite them over the threshold I find they always fall for it.

It's always nice to have visitors. There are not many doorstep callers these days. A sad reflection on society today.

So when a TVLA officer calls by, I welcome him in and seize the chance to show off my collection of ceremonial swords, de-activated handguns and crossbows.

The last TV licensing officer was a bit timid at first, but once he was bound and gagged, he was as happy as Larry, snuggled up on the sofa watching a couple of (pre-recorded) snuff movies with me.

spike7451

JasX wrote: »

Complete tosh, we could do with fewer idiots clearly with no idea what they're talking about comming and posting misinformation.

They'll take your name and address when you buy it, you'll then likely get a letter from the TV licensing people following it up asking if you should have a license. You;ll need to reply saying you have no broadcast recieving equipment installed and don't need a license.

I believe the key test in the unlikely event they ever bothered to pick you out for a spot check is -> is broadcast recieving equipment installed and available at the premesis?

If you are particularly paranoid about needing to argue anything then the more you can do to disable the receiver upstream of the TV the better -> ie be certain you don't have an areial or areial cable anywhere near your TV or easily accessible, even perhaps go so far as install a blanking plate over your areial socket / disconnect your aerial in the loft / deliberately put your TV in a part of the room away from the areial socket if you fancy.

I bought a VCR from Argos last year & was asked for my name & address,so I gave my address as Camp Bastion,Afghanistan....The bloke saw my MOD90 in my wallet & then told me not to worry about it!:D

Andy_L

kaya wrote: »

the licence people from the bbc have been lying for years and misleading you into believing you need a licence to own a tv or watch any channel other than BBC ,

The legislation is clear that its receiving live broadcasts by any means (be that RF, cable TV or internet stream) by any provider, not just the BBC.