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Its not just getting DLA, its keeping it too...!!

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  • DeadWeightUk
    DeadWeightUk Posts: 23 Forumite
    It is not unreasonable for an organisation giving you money to request you notify them of any change of circumstances that might affect those payments.

    Why did you not do so?

    I find it quite acceptable to do so but if you bother to read my thread you wll notice it is the level of which information is to be submitted that can affect an award and to how often need to update DWP with what potentially might be issues with which they have no needed interest.

    Would ask as to how many benefit claimant feel need to put pen to paper to update DWP with temporary change of address, an extended holiday or breakdown in relationship issues etc. especially those older claimants or those with busier lifestyles as yes, you can be awarded DLA if still working!

    Many people would be am sure, very concerned to such an unexpected intrusion into their personal lives but....??

    Also to think targets and new policy not yet in existance is naive!
  • relic
    relic Posts: 2,153 Forumite
    I find it quite acceptable to do so but if you bother to read my thread you wll notice it is the level of which information is to be submitted that can affect an award and to how often need to update DWP with what potentially might be issues with which they have no needed interest.

    Would ask as to how many benefit claimant feel need to put pen to paper to update DWP with temporary change of address, an extended holiday or breakdown in relationship issues etc. especially those older claimants or those with busier lifestyles as yes, you can be awarded DLA if still working!

    Many people would be am sure, very concerned to such an unexpected intrusion into their personal lives but....??

    Also to think targets and new policy not yet in existance is naive!

    I'd suggest that a "messy divorce" is slightly different to a holiday, or a temporary change of address.
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  • Adereterial
    Adereterial Posts: 549 Forumite
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    I find it quite acceptable to do so but if you bother to read my thread you wll notice it is the level of which information is to be submitted that can affect an award and to how often need to update DWP with what potentially might be issues with which they have no needed interest.

    Would ask as to how many benefit claimant feel need to put pen to paper to update DWP with temporary change of address, an extended holiday or breakdown in relationship issues etc. especially those older claimants or those with busier lifestyles as yes, you can be awarded DLA if still working!

    Many people would be am sure, very concerned to such an unexpected intrusion into their personal lives but....??

    Also to think targets and new policy not yet in existance is naive!

    Basic rule of thumb - if a government department is giving you money and they request information, provide it. Not doing so will result in you losing the money. It's a basic condition of entitlement - the most fundamental - that you will advise DWP/HMRC of any and all changes in your circumstances.

    Nothing they have asked you for is intrusive.

    You didn't do as you were requested.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    I find it quite acceptable to do so but if you bother to read my thread you wll notice it is the level of which information is to be submitted that can affect an award and to how often need to update DWP with what potentially might be issues with which they have no needed interest.

    Would ask as to how many benefit claimant feel need to put pen to paper to update DWP with temporary change of address, an extended holiday or breakdown in relationship issues etc. especially those older claimants or those with busier lifestyles as yes, you can be awarded DLA if still working!

    Many people would be am sure, very concerned to such an unexpected intrusion into their personal lives but....??

    Also to think targets and new policy not yet in existance is naive!

    It is you who is wrong here, not the DWP, and I'm not sure whether you are being naive or ignorant. The DWP clearly state which changes must be notified to them. Why did you feel that this rule did not apply to you?

    You say that you have three failed claims/ appeals. Therefore your problem has been going on far longer than the current govt have been in office. Hence, the planned changes are nothing to do with your failed claims.
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  • DeadWeightUk
    DeadWeightUk Posts: 23 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    DLA would not need to know, but the DWP would due to the impact on CA, IS etc. I think the OP is a little lost in his understanding.


    Would argue due to experience that DWP-DLA do expect to be notified as it was explained to me: if involved relationship and living with someone on full or part-time basis, then that person might assist a claimant in their personal needs. If they no longer there then the claimant might need additional or less assistance, so both could potentially affect an award or might not - but if DWP-DLA informed they got no excuse to use against you.

    Know it all sounds petty but the easy targets hit and claims terminated add to the stats very effectively and not just the big ones that hit the press either!
  • relic
    relic Posts: 2,153 Forumite
    I don't know whether it's my lack of knowledge in the area, or this person, but I am really struggling to read what he is writing.
    Per Mare Per Terram
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    Would argue due to experience that DWP-DLA do expect to be notified as it was explained to me: if involved relationship and living with someone on full or part-time basis, then that person might assist a claimant in their personal needs. If they no longer there then the claimant might need additional or less assistance, so both could potentially affect an award or might not - but if DWP-DLA informed they got no excuse to use against you.

    Know it all sounds petty but the easy targets hit and claims terminated add to the stats very effectively and not just the big ones that hit the press either!

    Your interpretation is wrong again. You are assessed on your care needs whether you receive that care or not. A partner leaving does not mean that your care needs no longer exist, nor does it mean that you should receive a higher rate of DLA.
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  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    That you need to notify DWP-DLA of any little change of circumstances, to include: :shocked:

    Any possible change to your lifestyle. Any temporary change of address.
    Any noticeable deterioration of condition. Any new additional medical conditions.
    Any change to your private, personal relationships or status.
    Any accidents or incidents that might affect your condition.
    Any other issue that affects you - whether personal or private.

    You don't.
    You need to inform them of relevant changes of circumstances only.

    You would have been - or should have been - sent with your award letter 'what you need to tell us about' - or similar - which details what you need to tell them about.

    You do not need to tell them about your private life.

    You do need to tell them about any changes to your condition that might lead to you getting more or less benefit.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@disabled/documents/digitalasset/dg_071131.pdf - for example - see page 5


    What was the specific reason they are giving
  • DeadWeightUk
    DeadWeightUk Posts: 23 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    It is you who is wrong here, not the DWP, and I'm not sure whether you are being naive or ignorant. The DWP clearly state which changes must be notified to them. Why did you feel that this rule did not apply to you?

    You say that you have three failed claims/ appeals. Therefore your problem has been going on far longer than the current govt have been in office. Hence, the planned changes are nothing to do with your failed claims.

    Firstly, it isn't the basic normal everyday changes of life am talking about here where you move permanent address and inform everyone; I always updated DWP, Inland Revenue etc if moved address but as to whether or not need let DWP-DLA know the more things that wouldn't obviously come to mind.

    As to my claims: ALL have been dealt with whilst new government in power, however such policy has been in affect long before this with Labour before them whilst actively working to reduce claimant expenditures.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    Firstly, it isn't the basic normal everyday changes of life am talking about here where you move permanent address and inform everyone; I always updated DWP, Inland Revenue etc if moved address but as to whether or not need let DWP-DLA know the more things that wouldn't obviously come to mind.

    As to my claims: ALL have been dealt with whilst new government in power, however such policy has been in affect long before this with Labour before them whilst actively working to reduce claimant expenditures.

    So exactly what is it that has caused the problem? Your posts are full of irrelevant information so no one really knows what you are talking about.
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