Windows Server 2003 not connecting internet

RobTang

bigpound wrote: »

why are you using 2003 and not 2008?

because paying £500 just for a 2008 std licence just to host some files is a tad overkill ?

As for the 2008 disc not loading you almost certainly have the wrong build for your server.

gaming_guy

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Horlock

RobTang wrote: »

because paying £500 just for a 2008 std licence just to host some files is a tad overkill ?

I don't actually pay for individual licenses (before anyone asks yes I do use genuine licensed), so the money isn't an issue.

RobTang wrote: »

As for the 2008 disc not loading you almost certainly have the wrong build for your server.

Can you illaberate? What sort of build do I have for my server? How can I change it? Sorry to seem stupid I just don't have knowledge of "build" in this context.

Horlock

gaming_guy wrote: »

It's also worth bearing in mind that 2008R2 is 64bit only whereas 2003/2003R2/2008 have both 32 and 64bit versions.



Also if you really want to get server 2008 installed, you could try setting up a trial of 2008 in a virtual machine (such as VirtualBox) and setting up Windows Deployment Services to serve the Server 2008 installation files to the machine via network booting (PXE).

That is an interesting point. Does this mean you can't upgrade from 2003 32bit to 2008 r2 64 bit? I'm guessing so - I know you don't seem to be able to on the non server windows stuff.

But it is also feasible that I don't have 64 bit processors I suppose.

Perhaps I should try going for 2008 32bit then. This may be worth while - perhaps overkill but then so what I'm only playing.

Incidentally, does anyone know (assuming I found out how to) whether after mounting a cd from within an OS it is possible to upgrade from the mounted disk? Ie when installing an OS, generally you are forced to reboot and then the computer continues to install (and from recollection continues to use the cd), so if the dvd was only mounted within the original OS, once it reboots the disk is not mounted anymore and so the computer doesn't know where to look anymore - at least that is how my logic is currently thinking.

gaming_guy

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RobTang

Server 2008 has 3 different builds (general architecture builds, technically there are more eg checked builds but im ignoring them for the moment)

32bit (x32)
"amd" 64 bit (x64)
Itanium 64 bit (ia64)

depending on what processor you have you should use the respecitive build.

2008 R2 removes the 32bit version.

Upgrade paths are similar to the desktop version of windows, like for like versions, no cross architecture. Although to be it would be odd to upgrade a server OS.

I doupt you can upgrade from a mounted disc, best bet is to copy the disc to the hdd and try the upgrade.

Personally unless your server is reasonably newish forget about using 2008, it feels much slower than 2003 on limited resources and its more complicated to configure. unless you need a feature from 2008 (eg hyper-v) I would not bother.

Horlock

RobTang wrote: »

Server 2008 has 3 different builds (general architecture builds, technically there are more eg checked builds but im ignoring them for the moment)

32bit (x32)
"amd" 64 bit (x64)
Itanium 64 bit (ia64)

depending on what processor you have you should use the respecitive build.

2008 R2 removes the 32bit version.

Upgrade paths are similar to the desktop version of windows, like for like versions, no cross architecture. Although to be it would be odd to upgrade a server OS.

I doupt you can upgrade from a mounted disc, best bet is to copy the disc to the hdd and try the upgrade.

Personally unless your server is reasonably newish forget about using 2008, it feels much slower than 2003 on limited resources and its more complicated to configure. unless you need a feature from 2008 (eg hyper-v) I would not bother.

Thanks for this - although I fear it may be too late!

I have installed 2008. I did it by selecting share on my dvd drive on my desktop and then mounting the shared drive and running the disk. It worked a charm. Well it worked. Well sort of.

The problem is that it seems I don't have the drivers for 2008. Basically, I've got only 800x600 VGA graphics and I get errors on both my base drivers and my ethernet driver.

So I can't even remote login to it!

I've checked HP Compaq website and no obviously they don't make drivers for 2008 (it is a DL580 G2 server).

So now to try to decide:

Option 1: Format and start again with 2003
Option 2: Keep playing and hope that I find the drivers

The truth is the whole thing is about learning so I don't feel bad either way. It's fun and I'm enjoying learning and getting the help. I would definately get more satisfaction from getting 2008 to work properly - but I sense an uphill climb with no drivers - eyes bleeding until I get the ethernet to work then remote login until I can get the resolution sorted - which is a battle as there is no display settings in the traditional sense of the word (to me a rooky), so even if I find the right driver I can't guarantee it'll work right!

Again pointers glad received.

spud17

I'll probably get a virtual kicking, but have you looked at FreeNAS?
I cannot comment on the new FreeNAS 8, but have no problems with the simple FreeNAS 7.

e.g http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/cheap_and_nasty_how_build_open_source_freenas_server

http://mylinuxramblings.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/freenas-network-attached-server-part-1-installation/

pcombo

Horlock wrote: »

Thanks for this - although I fear it may be too late!

I have installed 2008. I did it by selecting share on my dvd drive on my desktop and then mounting the shared drive and running the disk. It worked a charm. Well it worked. Well sort of.

The problem is that it seems I don't have the drivers for 2008. Basically, I've got only 800x600 VGA graphics and I get errors on both my base drivers and my ethernet driver.

So I can't even remote login to it!

I've checked HP Compaq website and no obviously they don't make drivers for 2008 (it is a DL580 G2 server).

So now to try to decide:

Option 1: Format and start again with 2003
Option 2: Keep playing and hope that I find the drivers

The truth is the whole thing is about learning so I don't feel bad either way. It's fun and I'm enjoying learning and getting the help. I would definately get more satisfaction from getting 2008 to work properly - but I sense an uphill climb with no drivers - eyes bleeding until I get the ethernet to work then remote login until I can get the resolution sorted - which is a battle as there is no display settings in the traditional sense of the word (to me a rooky), so even if I find the right driver I can't guarantee it'll work right!

Again pointers glad received.

Just stick the computer in a cupard with remote desktop and file sharing enabled LAN only, And you dont really need to worry about video drivers etc.

Horlock

pcombo wrote: »

Just stick the computer in a cupard with remote desktop and file sharing enabled LAN only, And you dont really need to worry about video drivers etc.

Thanks sounds like I'll just have to locate ethernet adapter then. Will keep people posted if I get any luck.