Do you see pepper as a condiment?

DCFC79 · 17 May 2011 at 2:16PM

geordie_joe wrote: »

Sorry but how the supermarket classes pepper has nothing at all to do with it.

The OP didn't buy pepper, she bought peppercorns and insists on referring to them as pepper.

peppercorns and pepper(pre ground) are the same thing

its got alot to do withit as tesco and all dont class pepper/peppercorns as condiments but herbs and spices, through no fault of the OP who had a coupon for a condiment picked up peppercorns thinking they were a condiment

Mrs_justjohn · 17 May 2011 at 2:42PM

geordie_joe wrote: »

Sorry but how the supermarket classes pepper has nothing at all to do with it.

The OP didn't buy pepper, she bought peppercorns and insists on referring to them as pepper.

Geordie Joe - No one seems to be listening to you...LOL
I'm with you on this. If the OP had a voucher for 'Mash Potato' or 'Chips' would she have been able to redeem it against a bag of spuds? - I think not.

Pepper in my mind is a condiment - Peppercorns are not.

If the OP told CS that she bought pepper then I am not surprised they gave her the CC points.

Mrs_justjohn · 17 May 2011 at 2:46PM

Oxford English Dictionary Definitions

Pepper - a pungent hot-tasting powder prepared from dried and ground peppercorns, used as a spice or condiment to flavour food.

Peppercorn - the dried berry of a climbing vine, used whole as a spice or ground to make pepper.

Conclusion - Peppercorns are a spice, Pepper can be a spice or condiment

DCFC79 · 17 May 2011 at 2:56PM

Mrs_justjohn wrote: »

Oxford English Dictionary Definitions

Pepper - a pungent hot-tasting powder prepared from dried and ground peppercorns, used as a spice or condiment to flavour food.

Peppercorn - the dried berry of a climbing vine, used whole as a spice or ground to make pepper.

Conclusion - Peppercorns are a spice, Pepper can be a spice or condiment

i understand what your saying but according to tesco.com it comes under herbs and spices which includes peppercorns and ground pepper

Sambucus_Nigra · 17 May 2011 at 2:56PM

Mrs_justjohn wrote: »

Geordie Joe - No one seems to be listening to you...LOL
I'm with you on this. If the OP had a voucher for 'Mash Potato' or 'Chips' would she have been able to redeem it against a bag of spuds? - I think not.

Pepper in my mind is a condiment - Peppercorns are not.

If the OP told CS that she bought pepper then I am not surprised they gave her the CC points.

At what point does a potato cease to BE a potato and become 'mash' or 'chips' - I thought it would still be 'potato' when it was pre-cooked and become 'mash' once mashed [having gone through 'boiled' first] or 'chips' once fried?

Hence, so the process of grinding turns a corn into powder and makes the spice into a condiment....ergo it was a condiment in waiting.

I'd really be interested in what other things people do with peppercorns OTHER than grind them into pepper.....what else can you do with them?

liam8282 · 17 May 2011 at 3:07PM

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

I'd really be interested in what other things people do with peppercorns OTHER than grind them into pepper.....what else can you do with them?

1. Peppercorn sauce for steak....

Mrs_justjohn · 17 May 2011 at 3:24PM

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

At what point does a potato cease to BE a potato and become 'mash' or 'chips' - I thought it would still be 'potato' when it was pre-cooked and become 'mash' once mashed [having gone through 'boiled' first] or 'chips' once fried?

My point (as I am sure you are aware) is that if a voucher is issued for an item such as chips you can not use it to buy a bag of potatoes and argue that you are going to turn the potatoes into chips. Therefore you can not argue that you should be able to use a voucher for pepper against peppercorns on the basis that you are going to grind the corns to make pepper....

Hence, so the process of grinding turns a corn into powder and makes the spice into a condiment....ergo it was a condiment in waiting.

Is bread flour bread in the waiting then? Should you be able to use a voucher for bread against bread flour or yeast?

I'd really be interested in what other things people do with peppercorns OTHER than grind them into pepper.....what else can you do with them?

Here you go a hundred recipes using peppercorns!

http://homecooking.about.com/library/archive/blspice4.htm

I'm still with Geordie Joe on this.....LOL

Horace · 17 May 2011 at 3:33PM

i use peppercorns whole when I pickle onions - they go into the pickling vinegar. I also use whole peppercorns in receipes where they are called for.

A peppercorn is not a pepper it is a dried berry - it is only when it is ground that it becomes pepper that we put on our dinners in other words it is a spice when it is in berry form and a condiment in ground form.