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self diagnosis on DLA claim form

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  • ...a doctor will have to confirm your diagnosis otherwise you'll be refused..."rethink" the mental health charity got me through this...although you have to be careful what you write...i,e, dont write that your condition requires you to stay in...and then go out a lot..you need to list your care needs at their most intensive..you're more likely to be successful if you're on incapacity and have a carer...also having difficulty with toiletting helps...they are rejecting more people these days...you've got to show that you're too ill to do anywork.
  • skater_kat
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    ...a doctor will have to confirm your diagnosis otherwise you'll be refused..."rethink" the mental health charity got me through this...although you have to be careful what you write...i,e, dont write that your condition requires you to stay in...and then go out a lot..you need to list your care needs at their most intensive..you're more likely to be successful if you're on incapacity and have a carer...also having difficulty with toiletting helps...they are rejecting more people these days...you've got to show that you're too ill to do anywork.


    there is so much in here that is not true! you shoudl not write about your most intensive, you shoudl write about your average/normal day. being on incapacity will not effect a dla claim and many people claim DLA and go to work!
  • I've just re-read the whole thread, as far as I can see from AdeW there is nothing but comment and conjecture made and written by AdeW and / or / his support team. roadmaps, CPA's, and action plans are standard ongoing daily recording systems for treating illness. In evidential terms nothing thus far qualifies AdeW for either the care or the mobility component at any level. AdeW is ill not disabled.

    - disabled is disabled
    - ill is ill
    - both require care
    - but ill is not disabled
    - DLA is for disability, not illness
    - too many people who are ill claim to be disabled

    DLA is about helping with :

    Care

    need help with things such as washing, dressing, eating, getting to and using the toilet, or communicating your needs
    need supervision to avoid you putting yourself or others in substantial danger
    need someone with you when you are on dialysis
    be unable to prepare a cooked main meal for yourself (if you have the ingredients), if you are aged 16 or over

    Mobility

    because of a physical disability, you are unable or virtually unable to walk without severe discomfort, or at risk of endangering your life or causing deterioration in your health by making the effort to walk
    you have no feet or legs
    you are assessed to be both 100 per cent disabled because of loss of eyesight and not less than 80 per cent disabled because of deafness and you need someone with you when you are out of doors
    you are severely mentally impaired with severe behavioural problems and qualify for the highest rate of care component
    you need guidance or supervision most of the time from another person when walking out of doors in unfamiliar places
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  • daska
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    skater_kat wrote: »
    there is so much in here that is not true! you shoudl not write about your most intensive, you shoudl write about your average/normal day. being on incapacity will not effect a dla claim and many people claim DLA and go to work!

    to be fair there's been more than one person on this forum saying that an an existing ATOS medical for one benefit has been used to refuse an application for another e.g.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3223578
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  • Sorry for going off-topic, but does anyone here with bipolar also have a heightened sense of smell, taste and/or hearing? Wondering whether there's a connection or whether it might be caused by something entirely different.


    I have Asperger's & can always hear, smell things other people can't, I also have a very acute sense of taste.
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  • skater_kat
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    daska wrote: »
    to be fair there's been more than one person on this forum saying that an an existing ATOS medical for one benefit has been used to refuse an application for another e.g.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3223578


    fair enough!
  • LadyMorticia
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    kurgon wrote: »
    CPA soes not have tp incluse a diagnosis as it is a review of your needs. The care plan comes out of the cpa meeting (normally wither 6 monthly or yearly.
    In relation to the meaning of CPA it is care program approach. This should be a meeting directed by your care coordinator and involve those who are actively contributing to your care.
    It may be that your nurse is getting the disgnosis from the consultant in which case they are formal diagnosis. Ask him/her where they came from.

    I've never had a CPA meeting, yet I still have a CPA.

    Both CPNs I've had have said that it needs to include a diagnosis. I'm going based on my experience.
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  • kurgon
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    I've never had a CPA meeting, yet I still have a CPA.

    Both CPNs I've had have said that it needs to include a diagnosis. I'm going based on my experience.
    You can't have a CPA without a meeting because that is what a CPA is. It was an outcome of the Ben Silcott and Christopher Klunis enquiries that indicated the need for proper planning in mental health. You may have a care plan which is non-cpa (this was the old standard cpa) but if your are under the juristiction of enhanced cpa then your care coordinators are not doing their job. They are also incorrect about having to have a diagnosis. It's a shame that there are still workers out there who are so medically minded. The focus should be on your needs, not on a diagnosis that could mean anything.

    I don't dispute your experience, but I do dispute the working habits of those who are working with you.
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    If i have cpa i''ve never seen the thing...
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