This forum isn't the same anymore

Sublime_2

If you're not happy OP, keep posting threads like this.

mcc100

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

The terminology comes from the stock markets, where a bull market is one that rises, and a bear market one that falls.

So a trader who believes a market is going to rise is bullish, and one who believes it will fall is bearish.

The term has been corrupted on housing boards to that of those who want falls are bears, and those who want rises are bulls.

So for example, I may predict prices will fall, but because I would prefer rises, that would make me a bull here. Confusing, I know, but we're all a bit mad on this board.

Totally agree Hamish ........ the term has been corrupted because of ridiculous posts such as the one below.

julieq wrote: »

Being a bear means never having to ever confront the fact you took a poor decision.

SingleSue

RenovationMan wrote: »

I came to MSE to do a mortgage free challenge and document my house renovations in a blog. I drifted onto this board because I saw a discussion about interest rates.

I felt welcome at first but after getting dragged into some really pointless arguments and then having been stalked around the board in a really creepy way, having nearly every single post I make picked apart or mocked by a couple of posters (sockies?) I have decided this place is not really for me.

I drifted onto this board because it appeared interesting..and I didn't much like reading discussions on what the latest pop star was doing, wearing or saying.

God knows what I am doing here though but people have accepted me and I feel comfortable.

System

chewmylegoff wrote: »

You might as well go out into the street and punch a five year old kid in the face and declare yourself heavyweight champion of the world.

I just got arrested, you owe me bail money.

chewmylegoff

Champion!!!!!

geneer

macaque wrote: »

It's been some months since we had a whining thread declaring that the forum is not the same anymore. And then someone cracks a joke and calls them a tos**r. At which OP blows a fuse and says 'that's exactly what I am talking about'.

Having said all that, things are very quiet on the forum. I think the bulls have bottled out.

Hasn't been the same since 2008.

Before the same the bulls always had the false crutch that the inevitable crash had not yet occured to fall back on.

Following the inevitable crash many of their spurious ill considered assertions have been thoroughly discredited.

Yet these same discredited assertions remain a significant part of their arsenal of thoughtlessly recycled memes.

Kind of puts things in focus.

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Yes. The bulls said house prices would not crash.
House prices crashed.
The bulls win.

Sigh.

geneer

Sibley wrote: »

Whatever.

Personally I don't really care.

I joined these forums to counter attack a group of morons who were trying to talk up a big house price crash.

Really I need not have bothered. Nobody listened to them and prices didn't go down anyway.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Another one at the denial stage.

And some wonder why theres just no interesting discussion anymore.

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Yes we did.



Oh please.... You clearly haven't read anything posted by Brit or geneer lately then.

More like "while the bears descended into a spittle flecked rage at being cheated out of their crash"....

Sorry to break it to you hamish dearie, but house prices did crash.
And it very much appears as if that correction is set to continue, certainly in real terms, probably in nominal terms too.

In fact, as I recall there is a few choice quotes of you admitting that the recent nominal fall in house prices (in just one year) was of a similar scale as the 90's nominal crash (which took place over 5 years). But lets not let one of your more lucid moments interrupt a denialist froth eh.

I have to say "spittle flecked rage" would be a much better characterisation of those now forced to get by on

1) outright comedy denial
2) grossly misrepresenting the bearish position (See JulieQs recent predictable endevour) and scrabbling to take the middle ground (e.g. house prices never fell 90% so the bulls win).
3) Mindlessly reitterated the same repetative and largely discredited VI soundbytes.
4) Constantly attempting to reset the argument to 2009/2010 whilst harking back to 2003/2004 (a date which matters little to most) when it suits them.

As far as my own efforts go, continuing to highlight the discrepancies, hypocricy and intellectual dishonesty of what passes for the "bull" argument nowadays is more what you'd call entertainment.

So unlike you predictable (and unsubstantiated) characterisation I do rather find it a jolly exercise. Sadly, the bulls are the butt of much of the good humour on this web forum.

But frankly, with their fantastic lack of self awareness, the bulls do appear to spent a lot of time begging for it.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Who cares what Brit and geneer say. They're not bears. They're just the same as the silver rampers: lunatics. Brit is currently holding a one man first time buyer strike in the belief that this will somehow bring about a rebalancing of house prices for godsake. Saying you won the argument against them is like celebrating success in demonstrating that jp morgue's investment strategy is !!!!!!. You might as well go out into the street and punch a five year old kid in the face and declare yourself heavyweight champion of the world.

Yes, I see what you mean.....