CSA says I am the father – but that's impossible!

Soubrette

I don't think that it will be that easy to reclaim any money if you refuse to take a DNA test.

Person A alleges person B is the other parent of a child.
Person B denies it, refuses to take a DNA test and pays maintenance for 18 years, person B then takes a DNA test and demands all their money back.

Person A (or the CSA) refuses and the courts find against person B because a) they refused the DNA test and b) they paid money to the child leaving both person A (even if they are lying) and the CSA to reasonably assume Person B was in fact the other parent.

People accuse other people of all sorts of things without proof - that's why we have the police and the courts to decide where the truth lies.

If you're looking on this as a hypothetical way of earning a good interest rate - I don't think it will succeed.

fannyanna

Listen for 15% of £180k you can come and impregnate me any day

Seriously though I'm guessing this is a troll or something.

DUTR

StitchedUp1979 wrote: »

Quietly, my thinking was to pay her off the 15% CSA to keep her quiet, then reclaim it later after a paternity test. This is why I need to be sure I formally deny I am the father and have the CSA treat me the lying toe rag and let them carry out all these threats.

The timings are way out, like 6 months difference from date of birth and last (protected) sex, except oral sex on a one night stand at a pub where she worked, my fault, but that doesnt get her pregnant.

Dude, don't be a w4nker!
On the form there is a box to tick if you have doubts over paternity, the tests are painless and resluts are more than 99% accurate, so get them done and put the episode one way or the other once and for all, no point in whinging and whining about it in between

clearingout

a) 6 months between last sex and birth? Hmmm....9 months to cook a baby. It COULD, therefore, be yours couldn't it?

b) You suggest that the mother should present some kind of evidence that the child is yours. What, exactly, are you proposing? As far as I know, DNA is the only way (and it's a pretty accurate way) to prove who the father is/isn't. If the child's not yours, why worry about the outcome of the test? Sure, there's an upfront fee, but for someone on £180k a year, £300 isn't going to break the bank, is it? You'll get it back when you're proved right so what's the problem?

And whilst I don't really understand the legalities around testing later rather than sooner, you MUST realise that at 18, an adult has the right to NOT consent to testing. So let's see it from the child's point of view. You ignore the DNA question when you had a chance to test, you pay for 18 years, and THEN you demand a test purely as some kind of warped revenge tactic? If said child is supportive of mum, he/she will tell you where to go, don't you think?

If you can't keep it in your trousers, at some point, you have to face your responsibilities! Tick the box, take a test and do let us know the outcome.

StitchedUp1979

a) Its 6 months before concention date based on date of birth. I may have explained it wrong but I thought a 9 month gestation period would have been obvious to all mums.

b) the upfront fee is not the issue. I find it odd the CSA takes an an unsupported claim to be fact, and conveys it to me with vitriolic correspondence containing phrases such as arrest warrants, bailiffs, and prison.

Its fair to say that no formal offer of a perternity test has been made, nor have I seen the form DUTR refers to. Getting my address right is the CSAs problem and if they choose not to do so then that is their prerogative. I expect it was never sent, or my ex gave a wrong address, possibly of a property that is currently tenanted. I did have a strange call from woman from the DWP with a shirty attitude and asking about my birthday. I told her to contact a solicitor.

This is the first I heard that recovering incorrect child maintenance is difficult. I have been reading the Robinson case where it was a straightforward claim of about £33,000 including interest when a paternity test was done. It wasnt payable by the mum, the CSA repaid it because it executed a threat it had previously made.

The CSA treat me with contempt as though I am a criminal. Is there anything wrong in allowing the CSA to steamroller ahead with their accusation and enforcement unhallenged? Concede 15%, then reclaim it later. Its not the mum who repays it accoriding to a leading precedent, its the CSA. But I must be sure the CSA acts unilaterally in order to follow a precedent.

fannyanna

If you have nothing better to do with your life than to start a pointless battle with the CSA then of course go ahead.

Alternatively get a hobby.

Cornish_piskie

StitchedUp1979 wrote: »

a)


This is the first I heard that recovering incorrect child maintenance is difficult. I have been reading the Robinson case where it was a straightforward claim of about £33,000 including interest when a paternity test was done. It wasnt payable by the mum, the CSA repaid it because it executed a threat it had previously made.

And following such cases you will normally find that the organisation tightens up their procedures to stop losing out like this again;)

This is an absolute no-brainer - take the DNA test and then let her make a claim to the CSA with the next suspect:cool:

DX2

Boring Saturday afternoon OP?
The CSA says I am the mother - but that's impossible!

fannyanna

DX2 wrote: »

Boring Saturday afternoon OP?
The CSA says I am the mother - but that's impossible!

That made me chuckle :rotfl:

emma+_6

what? you dont think the kid is yours but you're going to pay?

what about the child? you will be acknowledging it is yours and then in a few years time the kid will find out you did it as an investment? You thinking at all about the effect of your actions on an innocent child?

Do the DNA test, it wont take long and then it's all sorted out one way or the other