Worried daughter - please help to reassure her - soryy long post!

hartcjhart

DebtHater wrote: »

Or you could just send off the NIP and let the police deal with it.

You dont need to go to any court to sort this issue out.

Going to court to fill out paperwork is a bit OTT

In an ideal world I would agree,BUT,as in my case I had sent the forms back and letters but to no avail,hence why I had to do the 'Stat Dec', for the sake of an hour sitting at the court it WILL put a stop to the proceedings

Sir_Roger_deLodger

A Stat Dec is only any use AFTER a court hearing.
In this case all the daughter needs to do is to fill in the S172 with the name of the seller. To the best of her knowledge the seller was the person responsible for the bike on the date of the offence. This fulfils her obligation under S172 and will be the end of it as far as she is concerned.
Anything else will result in a charge of failure to furnish.

Then, she needs to inform the DVLA, in writing, that she is not the RK of this bike.

Lum

hartcjhart wrote: »

if this is the case send off the form stating that she has no knowledge of the offence or who was riding the bike,

then to back this up go to your local courthouse

no no no no..

Send the NIP back with the sellers details.

The camera partnership will then send out another NIP to the seller

If he has sold the bike on to someone else, he will send the NIP back with the new buyer's details on.

No need to go to a courthouse or anything like this. Camera partnerships deal with hundreds of offences a day that have gone out to previous owners, or have gone out to the new purchaser for an offence that occurred before the purchase date. Their computer systems are designed to deal with this speedily and efficiently.

I would, however, agree with the advice to make a copy of the completed form and send it by at least recorded delivery, just to defend yourself against an S172 fail to furnish prosecution should the form get lost in the post or the ticket office.

Cash-Strapped.T32

I won't add anything to the main topic, as I think it's been covered well enough.

Only to say in the OP's defence having bought several bikes myself in a similar manner; It's not unusual to see a lot of wear when buying a smaller capacity (I assume 125) bike, for a youngster.

It's just a fact of life that bikes ridden by younger riders tend to get ragged slightly & this takes it out on the rear tyre; As long as the tyre isn't visibly bald, or split, etc.. then it's all what you'd more or less expect to see when viewing a 125.

Assumptions, but safe ones imo.

BonandDom

Cash-Strapped.T32 wrote: »

I won't add anything to the main topic, as I think it's been covered well enough.

Only to say in the OP's defence having bought several bikes myself in a similar manner; It's not unusual to see a lot of wear when buying a smaller capacity (I assume 125) bike, for a youngster.

It's just a fact of life that bikes ridden by younger riders tend to get ragged slightly & this takes it out on the rear tyre; As long as the tyre isn't visibly bald, or split, etc.. then it's all what you'd more or less expect to see when viewing a 125.

Assumptions, but safe ones imo.

Thank you - had started to feel like a really bad mum for a while there, our intention was of course before DD ever got to ride the bike was to get a new set of tyres and the bike fully checked out. If the tyre had been bald/split etc we would have of course not bought the bike. And the whole idea of me riding it back home, rather than DD was that as an experienced rider I could cope/handle any mishaps.


Thank you everyone for all your advice:T

asbokid

DebtHater wrote: »

For a tyre to explode, it would have needed to be in a dire condition, you even said it yourself that you were concerned by the state of it.

Indeed. Alarm bells were ringing when the OP said this..

"I jumped on the bike to ride it home. Within two miles, the back tyre exploded on me"

Come on, guys, apply some common sense..

ALWAYS check the Tyre Load Ratings beforehand...

BonandDom

asbokid wrote: »

Indeed. Alarm bells were ringing when the OP said this..

"I jumped on the bike to ride it home. Within two miles, the back tyre exploded on me"

Come on, guys, apply some common sense..

ALWAYS check the Tyre Load Ratings beforehand...

Tyre pressure was checked prior to setting off and was indeed ok, we were not happy with the sellers comments about going to pump it up before we got there, it rang alarm bells and had it been my daughter that was going to ride it home no doubt we would have responded differently.

Anyway, the point is, not that the bike was not as described or that we were "stupid" enough to buy it and attempt a ride home but that my DD has recieved a NIP 6/7 months after returning the bike to the seller.

asbokid

Fairy nuff. AS you say, distraction really. Your daughter has all the proof she needs. If it reached court I would be very annoyed with the DVLA and CPS for wasting my time and for the nuisance.

Out of curiosity, what sort of cash was the bike?

For, say, £100, serious faults should be expected. Best to trailer it away, and ride only once it had the all clear.