Worried daughter - please help to reassure her - soryy long post!

BonandDom

LillythePink wrote: »

Why can't you contact the police station until Monday?

Surely they are open 24/7 and although they won't be able to do anything as such as you have said that the central unit isn't open, they will surely have to log your complaint etc?

As you have said, it's a serious matter for her.

Also, do you have proof that she wasn't at the place the offence took place? Surely that would help as well

I have spoke to Lancashire Constabulary and they said I would need to speak to the central unit.

As to proof of where she was, the offence took place at 05:54 on a sunday, she's 17, was definately still in bed lol.:rotfl::rotfl:

Seriously though as luck would have it she was at the Charity Easter Egg bike run, organised by Durham Police that day and we have photos showing her there at 9am and her details were logged with the organisers.

LillythePink

Where was the offence committed? How many miles away?

If it was only 10 miles away and it was at 6 am, then she would then have loads of time to be somewhere else at 9!

Obviously, if it was more than 200 miles away, then it will help

BonandDom

LillythePink wrote: »

Where was the offence committed? How many miles away?

If it was only 10 miles away and it was at 6 am, then she would then have loads of time to be somewhere else at 9!

Obviously, if it was more than 200 miles away, then it will help

250 miles away:)

DebtHater

What sprung to my mind is if the bike was of such a bad condition why were you prepared to ride it 250 miles?

For a tyre to explode, it would have needed to be in a dire condition, you even said it yourself that you were concerned by the state of it. So you are lucky in some ways that you didnt ride the bike home, because had you been spotted by the police they could have taken the bike away from you for it being in a dangerous condition.

As for the NIP, you will simply need to tell them about the circumstances. I would suggest this would be better in writing, there is a section on the NIP as someone else stated to put that you were not at fault. I would use a covering letter also to explain the situation.

And with regards to eBay, you are only obliged to complete the transaction if the item is the same condition as was stated in the auction. eBay would have allowed you to back away from the deal had you explained to them what had happened when you went to pick the bike up. I certainly wouldnt of paid out if the item wasnt the same as stated in the auction.

kwaks

S172 needs completed. End of story. She should put in the sellers details as to the best of her knowledge he would be riding it.

Being 250 miles away at the time IS a defence against speeding. However is NOT a defence against a S172 offence.

Sir_Roger_deLodger

Don't try to just explain in a letter, anything but the signed S172 form will be ignored. She MUST complete and sign the S172 with the sellers details within 28 days or she WILL be charged with failure to furnish, which carries 6 points and a large fine. Photocopy it and send the original by special delivery.

vaio

I suppose strictly speaking when you paid and drove it way you become the owner with all the responsibilities that entails.

When the previous owner then took the bike back you legally sold it to him.

I'd fire off a letter to DVLC explaining it all as it could be argued that you haven't complied with the requirements when you sell a car although, as you didn't have the V5 in your name, I don't see how you could

kwaks

vaio wrote: »

I suppose strictly speaking when you paid and drove it way you become the owner with all the responsibilities that entails.

When the previous owner then took the bike back you legally sold it to him.

I'd fire off a letter to DVLC explaining it all as it could be argued that you haven't complied with the requirements when you sell a car although, as you didn't have the V5 in your name, I don't see how you could

As above, nothing less than a fully completed S172 will suffice.

You need to stop the clock on the S172, completing it is the only way, then you can send as many letters as you wish.

hartcjhart

so lets get this straight,

the NIP is in your daughters name?hopefully yes

she has never ridden the bike?hopefully no


if this is the case send off the form stating that she has no knowledge of the offence or who was riding the bike,

then to back this up go to your local courthouse and arrange for your daughter to make a 'Statutory declaration'
stating the information you have given about ebay(hopefully you still have the listing)
and that she has no knowledge of the offence/rider

once you have this form send that to the office concerned with the NIP

A Statutory Declaration' is a statement on oath sworn to be true to the best of her knowledge and will cost nothing,


I have had to do this twice to send the bailifs packing regarding a speeding offence that was nothing to do with me

DebtHater

hartcjhart wrote: »

so lets get this straight,

the NIP is in your daughters name?hopefully yes

she has never ridden the bike?hopefully no


if this is the case send off the form stating that she has no knowledge of the offence or who was riding the bike,

then to back this up go to your local courthouse and arrange for your daughter to make a 'Statutory declaration'
stating the information you have given about ebay(hopefully you still have the listing)
and that she has no knowledge of the offence/rider

once you have this form send that to the office concerned with the NIP

A Statutory Declaration' is a statement on oath sworn to be true to the best of her knowledge and will cost nothing,


I have had to do this twice to send the bailifs packing regarding a speeding offence that was nothing to do with me

Or you could just send off the NIP and let the police deal with it.

You dont need to go to any court to sort this issue out.

Going to court to fill out paperwork is a bit OTT