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Wee_Willy_Harris

ILW wrote: »

does there come a point where you just give up on people that refuse to do anything for themselves?

Of course. But sometimes one has to look at the greater good.

Jimmy_31

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Many heroin addicts hold down jobs. The construction industry in the 90's was a hotbed of heroin use. The only real issue, both for users and the wider society, is affordability. If you can afford your habit, it's not a problem. If you can't, we all suffer.

You really are strange, or you are one of them people who crave attention.

I work in the construction industry and did so in the late 90s and didnt come across any heroin addicts. and i can tell you now a heroin addict wouldnt last 5 minutes on site. They wouldnt be able to do the job from rattlin all day waiting for their next fix. Thats if they hadnt been killed in an accident through not being able to pay attention to whats going on around them.

Smackheads operating cranes whatever next. coked up fighter pilots.

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Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

There is some evidence to support the idea that cost is not the main factor when first embarking on a decent heroin habit. Countries where heroin has been legalised have not seen a sharp increase in usage as a result. And it's easier to target education.

Countries that have legalised it are not the same as countries (if there are any ) where its free. The fact that usage had reduced after legalisation supports my argument.

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

You really are strange, or you are one of them people who crave attention.

I work in the construction industry and did so in the late 90s and didnt come across any heroin addicts. and i can tell you now a heroin addict wouldnt last 5 minutes on site. They wouldnt be able to do the job from rattlin all day waiting for their next fix. Thats if they hadnt been killed in an accident through not being able to pay attention to whats going on around them.

Smackheads operating cranes whatever next. coked up fighter pilots.

Cocaine was routinely given to those fighting in both world wars and the use of opiates by GI's in Vietnam is well documented.

As for the construction worker "rattling"?, He wouldn't need to "rattle" as he could support his habit financially.

Jimmy_31

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Cocaine was routinely given to those fighting in both world wars and the use of opiates by GI's in Vietnam is well documented.

As for the construction worker "rattling"?, He wouldn't need to "rattle" as he could support his habit financially.

I dont think the heroin addict would get away with cooking up at break time so yes they would be rattling.

lostinrates

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

People try not to repeat the unpleasant things in life.

I know nothing about heroin but I'd contest this. You see examples everyday.....women who go home to men who beat them, men who go home to women who belittle them, people who abuse them selves in various forms of unhappy ways....

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Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Cocaine was routinely given to those fighting in both world wars and the use of opiates by GI's in Vietnam is well documented.

As for the construction worker "rattling"?, He wouldn't need to "rattle" as he could support his habit financially.

No, I'm pretty sure that was MDMA (ecstasy) during the first world war as they often struggled to get supplies to them and it kept them awake and not too hungry. They go rid of it pretty quickly for obvious reasons as well.

Wee_Willy_Harris

[quote=[Deleted User];43485852]Countries that have legalised it are not the same as countries (if there are any ) where its free. The fact that usage had reduced after legalisation supports my argument.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say "reduced", I said "not seen a sharp increase".

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

I dont think the heroin addict would get away with cooking up at break time so yes they would be rattling.

Ways and means, dear boy, ways and means. Perhaps they had a quick smoke while taking a dump. There isn't usually an audience for that, even among the building trades.

Wee_Willy_Harris

[quote=[Deleted User];43486216]No, I'm pretty sure that was MDMA (ecstasy) during the first world war as they often struggled to get supplies to them and it kept them awake and not too hungry. They go rid of it pretty quickly for obvious reasons as well.[/QUOTE]

And amphetamine (speed) was given to soldiers during WWll.