BBC show on council housing now - 21:00 4th May

neverdespairgirl

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Does that mean you have made an assumption?

No, not at all. When I was a pupil, my pupilmaster did quite a bit of family work, esp. freeing orders, care orders, etc

I've never practised family law, but spent quite a bit of time watching it / reading about it / chatting to social workers and local authority family law solicitors.

mattcanary

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

I have to pull you up on that one. Even CBL has priorities, including homelessness. Where CBL is employed as a method of allocation, there is no separate homeless route. The statutory homeless duty is discharged via the CBL bidding process and appropriate priority.

In effect though, there are two routes. if you are deemd by the local authority as homeless and to be helped by them (that is, you ahave children, have a severe illness or disability or possibly one or two other situations) you get pushed to the front of the queue and get offered a flat or house. You don;t choose which one in this case - you get offered one.

So in effect two different systems. Jimmy is not homeless and is not eligible under this route - he could still apply to go on the housing register however - which is my basic point.

ILW

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Given that a marriage certificate imposes no additional obligations of any kind on a parent, it is completely irrelevant.

it tends to make obligations easier to enforce. If a bloke is not prepared to even commit to a basic registry office wedding, then having his kid is a bit daft choice to make

mattcanary

One other point - why do so many people here think that all people living in council housing don't work?
And also why do they think that everyone in private rented housing work??!!

Bizarre...

Wee_Willy_Harris

mattcanary wrote: »

In effect though, there are two routes. if you are deemd by the local authority as homeless and to be helped by them (that is, you ahave children, have a severe illness or disability or possibly one or two other situations) you get pushed to the front of the queue and get offered a flat or house. You don;t choose which one in this case - you get offered one.

So in effect two different systems. Jimmy is not homeless and is not eligible under this route - he could still apply to go on the housing register however - which is my basic point.

Well, no. With CBL systems, homelessness is accepted as an urgent housing need and banded accordingly. The applicant is then given a (usually time limited) opportunity to bid for suitable properties in the same way as everyone else. There is a slight difference after this time limit expires where, if you haven't been successful, some providers will bid for you (proxy bidding) or one direct offer will be made. Most homeless applications secure their own accommodation through the bidding route, in exactly the same way as any other priority group.

mattcanary

OK, thanks for that wee Willy harris

tillycat123

A friend of mine fosters little ones. The money that is thrown at the parents to try and teach them to be parents is sickening and they still failed with this couple. Their house is full of expensive baby stuff apparently all provided for them, neither have ever worked or intend to.

The little boy is in the process of being adopted as they court has ruled they are not fit.

This unfit mother is now pregnant again!!!!!

worried_jim

tillycat123 wrote: »

I watched 5 minutes of this programme and had to turn off, these people just make my blood boil!

The bit I saw was the 10 people living in one house moaning that the 2 lads cant get a place of their own. It's the mentality of these breeders. Getting a job to get a house does not seem to even cross their minds they want everything given to them.

Until they stop these breeders things won't change. Cap the child element of benefits to 2 kids only maximum and stop paying these idiots without a single brain cell between them to have kids. Then they won't need to be scrounging for bigger houses that we all end up paying for.

Very harsh but correct. The something for nothing generation. My favourite was the oxygen thief with all the mould on his walls and the expert said "have you tried wiping it off"?

Graham_Devon

mattcanary wrote: »

One other point - why do so many people here think that all people living in council housing don't work?
And also why do they think that everyone in private rented housing work??!!

Bizarre...

Whats bizzare is that you state that "all people on here think all people living in council housing don't work".

I think someone needs to re-read the thread and actually read what's written.

sjaypink

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Whats bizzare is that you state that "all people on here think all people living in council housing don't work".

I think someone needs to re-read the thread and actually read what's written.

He said 'so many people'