Receiving the same wage as the trainees!

Sambucus_Nigra

AimeesMum wrote: »

I will give estimates as I am not a hundred percent sure of the correct figures at the moment. I didn't appreciate that some people would have as much understanding of the grading structures and therefore tried to make it simpler than it is in my first post.

I was on maternity leave when I recieved a letter about my grading for my job description and job title (grade 6). As it merely said my job title and the grade I was under no impression that any of the others were given a grade 7. On a back to work day last week the conversation happened with the employee and I find out that they were all graded as a 7.

The trainee version of the post was graded a 5 but this was appealed against successfully and they have been given a grade 6. I believe grade 5 is £16,000-£24,000. Grade 6 is £22,000-£29,000 and grade 7 is £27,000-£33,000.

Effectively, if the trainees were unsuccessful they would have recieved a pay cut as length of service and increments before the switch to modernising pay meant they were assimilated over at roughly the same wage as me. Meaning they are earning £23,000 a year, recieving training, going on courses and getting to do a lighter version of the job and when their manager finds them competent enough can promote them will move on to grade 7.

Whereas, I am stuck on grade 6, completely unsure how to progress through to the grade 7 (My line manager has told me that I have a bar although I am not sure of the implications of the bar or how to get passed it).

Hammyman, thanks for your comments. I appreciate that I am only 22 but I am the mother of two small children, live and pay for myself and have done for many years - I don't think I'm remotely "little more than a child".

The main problem is that I have missed the appeal stage and think it's unlikely that I will be allowed to appeal now.

You don't appeal. You put a grievance in about the situation as per my previous posts.

You hint that you think it might be discrimination on the grounds that you are the only one on a grade 6 and because it happened whilst you were on maternity, you think it was an oversight and not discrimination because you were on maternity.

Premier_2

It gets better and better.

So let me get this correct. You are 22 years old. You have been working since you were 16. In that time you spent an initial 3 years working in the construction business where you spent time both in the UK and overseas. So the most you could have spent in one of those positions was 18 months.

You have been doing your current job for only 3 years, and that includes a period of maternity leave too. (you actually have 2 children already)

And you really think you have as much experience as a 40 or 60 year old??? Do you really expect to receive £30k+ of taxpayers money per year?

Amazing...:cool:

Gleeful

AimeesMum wrote: »

Hammyman, thanks for your comments. I appreciate that I am only 22 but I am the mother of two small children, live and pay for myself and have done for many years - I don't think I'm remotely "little more than a child".

Hang on, weren't you the author of a big thread over in benefits and tax credits complaining you weren't getting enough benefits? That's not paying for yourself!

Gleeful

Thought so

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3051354

Sambucus_Nigra

I've had many friends who were mature enough at 22 to run what other people were running at 40 - it depends on the person. If she wasn't mature enough to do the job, she would not be employed in that role - no?

She is either doing the job [and needs to be on the same salary band] or she is not. People's judgements about the OP based on a few words typed into an internet forum are pretty much irrelevant.

kelloggs36

It is the grading that is the issue - if she puts in a grievance about that and wins, then she will automatically get a pay increase to at least the bottom of the grade 7 scale, to £27k. As the rest of the team with possibly more relevant experience are on the top of the scale, that would be okay. If she feels that it is warranted, she could try and push to be higher up the scale - but that would entirely depend upon the relevant length of service and experience. She can then continue to work there and work her way to the top of that scale.

AimeesMum_2

Gleeful wrote: »

Thought so

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3051354

Lol...think it's funny that you post trailed but if you actually read the thread you would have understood that the point I was making was the council forced me out my house and then expected me to pay rent 4 times higher. If you took out a car on finance that didn't work and the company gave you another one that was 4x higher would u expect to pay that without a choice? That was my point.

But thanks for all the help. I'm going to speak to my manager and put a grievance in xx

Gleeful

AimeesMum wrote: »

Lol...think it's funny that you post trailed but if you actually read the thread you would have understood that the point I was making was the council forced me out my house and then expected me to pay rent 4 times higher. If you took out a car on finance that didn't work and the company gave you another one that was 4x higher would u expect to pay that without a choice? That was my point.

But thanks for all the help. I'm going to speak to my manager and put a grievance in xx

I didn't understand your point. I thought you just came across as moneygrabbing to be honest.

Good luck with your grievance

AimeesMum_2

Just a quick update - I took my grievance to my boss and he was very understanding about it and said that it was already being spoke about by the managers as two of the trainees had put grievances in and they were moved onto grade 7 after it was agreed they were no longer in trainee roles.

I have now been awarded a grade 7 An increase of about £3,600. Thank you to those of you who helped xxx

Sambucus_Nigra

Result. Well done.