Receiving the same wage as the trainees!

AimeesMum_2

Sorry Lokolo I don't understand where I said we don't carry out exactly the same job?

We do the same job, have the same job title. There is a trainee version of our job which has been graded the same as me. They shadow my work and do my admin. I have been doing the same line of work for 6 years.

Sambucus_Nigra

I suspect that they put you in the trainee bracket as you were younger than the others; whereas you have never been a trainee and have been working and training the trainees since X [put that in your grievance].

AimeesMum_2

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

I spoke to my line manager who confirmed that they are all at the top of the pay scale for the job position (currently £22,000-£32,000).

What's the pay scales for both grade 6 and 7?

How can the time scale for appealing about the job evaluation be closed when you weren't aware that other members of your team doing the same role had been given a higher grade than yourself?

You need to put a grievance in ASAP about this stating that you have been employed at a lower grade for the same role and you have been told that the time for appealing has closed, so this is your only recourse to equivalence.

I can only assume that when the previous grading £22k-32k was transferred over to modernising pay that it was regraded as them a 7 and me a 6.

Appeals for modernising pay closed in January and I was happy with my grade until I found out that others were on 7. I have been on maternity leave for 6 months and this is why it has only fully come to light.

Sambucus_Nigra

In that case I'd say in the grievance that you can only assume that it was an oversight and not discrimination whilst you were on maternity leave. That should get them jumping!

patchwork_cat

As has been pointed out as you are only 22 you have very limited experience, in any field. I will reiterate £23K is a good salary for 22 particularly if you work in the public sector.

poet123

When you talk about "experience" and your current role, I assume you mean you and the others have the same time spent in this current role, and you are therefore equating your experience on that level? However, if the other employees are much older than you they will have experiences in other spheres and transferable skills that you cannot yet (by dint of your age) have accrued. So, it is actually not possible for you to have experience which equals theirs.

AimeesMum_2

poet123 wrote: »

When you talk about "experience" and your current role, I assume you mean you and the others have the same time spent in this current role, and you are therefore equating your experience on that level? However, if the other employees are much older than you they will have experiences in other spheres and transferable skills that you cannot yet (by dint of your age) have accrued. So, it is actually not possible for you to have experience which equals theirs.

This isn't true. I have what I believe to be a very impressive CV for my age. I will only go into one of the other employees background. She has told me that most of her work is in childcare. She is roughly 41 and spent 15 years as a childminder and then a receptionist for a construction company where she was responsible for placing the orders for the works. I have worked in London and Pakistan as part of a large scale construction company and worked my way up from the bottom. I, in no way, find my experience inferior from hers and know that she has only being doing procurment for 5 years.

Sambucus_Nigra

poet123 wrote: »

When you talk about "experience" and your current role, I assume you mean you and the others have the same time spent in this current role, and you are therefore equating your experience on that level? However, if the other employees are much older than you they will have experiences in other spheres and transferable skills that you cannot yet (by dint of your age) have accrued. So, it is actually not possible for you to have experience which equals theirs.

That's completely irrelevant; the OP is on the wrong grade. If the OP is doing the job then they should be on the correct grading for that role.

poet123

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

That's completely irrelevant; the OP is on the wrong grade. If the OP is doing the job then they should be on the correct grading for that role.

Irrelevant ( to the bottom line) it may be, my point was that you cannot, at 22, claim to have experience that equals those who are much older.

Regardless of whether the OP deems her colleagues have relevant experience, they will have more experience per se than she has, just more experience of working full stop.

ali-t

AimeesMum wrote: »

I have worked in London and Pakistan as part of a large scale construction company and worked my way up from the bottom. I, in no way, find my experience inferior from hers and know that she has only being doing procurment for 5 years.

But to look at it realistically, you are 23 and have 2 children so have to take 2 periods of maternity leave off your length of experience (unless they are twins?) so even if you started working there when you left school at 16, you only have around 5 years experience in procurement or perhaps even less.