Da

mrsdarbs

Are you entitled to it if you are moving from a 2 bed to a 3 bed due to an increase in family size?

Many thanks


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badgerhead

i think it depends on the age and sex of your children as to whether they can share a room

*pinkpanther*

07.0111. Mid-assignment Moves. DA is only payable for mid-assignment moves where the move of accommodation is for Service reasons. For compassionate, welfare or medical reasons, PACCC approval is required (see 01.0108). All supporting evidence (medical or welfare reports, COs recommendations etc) where it exists, must be included in the casework submitted to the PACCC. DA is not payable for mid-assignment moves between SLA. Where the Service person’s accommodation entitlement changes due to promotion or a change in the size of the immediate family (other than as a result of first setting up of home upon marriage or civil partnership, where there is no entitlement) the Service person will normally be entitled to a mid-assignment move and therefore the associated level of DA. The Service person must have an expectation of occupying the new property for at least 6 months. Mid-assignment moves for other personal reasons, including on estrangement, and for operational deployments do not give an entitlement to DA. For the purposes of these regulations, first setting up of a home is a term that applies following marriage or civil partnership, regardless of whether a couple lived together beforehand or not. A couple who have already established a home prior to marriage have no entitlement to DA or removals when they move accommodation mid-assignment following their marriage

Looks hopefull, altho I just stumbled across this, im sure it wont be that easy. Good luck tho.

Alias_Omega

JSP 752 cannot give you the answer on this, you need to go back to JSP 464 which will tell you what accomodation you are entitled too.

If this says that you are entitled to a larger house, then you can move and claim the relevant Disturbance Allowance in accordance with JSP 752.

Though, if you moved because a bigger house was available, but you were not entitled to a larger house under JSP 464 (ie JSP 464 says that you were not entitled) then you cannot claim for Disturbance Allowance (DA).


JSP 464 - http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3C09CB15-E95C-41CF-8A06-13027254A03B/0/jsp464part1.pdf

Ideally from Page 55 onwards is the sections that you should be looking for.

Alias_Omega

In short, for your DA claim.

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3C09CB15-E95C-41CF-8A06-13027254A03B/0/jsp464part1.pdf

Page 58

If you were currently living in a Type B house with 1 child, and you had another child. You entitlement would change from Type B to a Type C. You would be required to live in a Type C house.

Then,

JSP 752 Section 7 would come into effect in Para 07.0111

This would be the backbone of your claim, as JSP 464 Annex B to Chapter 3 permits you to claim from JSP 752 Section 7, Para 07.0111

Regards,

Alias

EmmEve

Only if the extra child changes your entitlement to housing. If your housing entitlement remains the same you won't be entitled to DA although you might still be able to get a bigger house if there are some going spare

mrsdarbs

thanks peeps! We have been told we are entitled as we are in a D at the moment. Just got to wait til I get my MATB1 from my midwife to prove the pregnancy and then put the application in with the HIC. Housing have told us there is plenty of availability so no probs there either, just someone mentioned the DA and I didn't think we'd be entitled.

Thank you

mrsdarbs

hi there. We are currently in a B4 and have been allocated a c type house due to this pregnancy - hubby is on a course for 6 weeks and I'm not sure what access he is going to have to even accept the house never mind getting answers to any questions I have so I'm asking on here if that's ok.

Does the 6 month thing apply for DA just for the new house we are in or do have to have lived in the current house for 6 months. When we applied for our current house and DA I wasn't pregnant and therefore we expected to be living in this house for the duration of the posting. However the week before we moved I found out. We haven't been given a move date yet as was only offered the address on Friday and haven't actually accepted. We do know it won't be before 1st August though.

We marched in to our current property on 28th Feb, but claimed the DA back in Jan's pay. I'm just a little confused on the DA rules of the whole 6 months thing - obviously we intend on being in our next qtr for the rest of the posting - about 2.5 years.

Also can anyone tell me where I can find the mid-assignment, DA rates? Would hubby need to speak to a clerk?

Many thanks

fb1969

There are no rates for mid-assignment moves, it is all or nothing. The date for the start of the six months would normally be the day that you marched in, though DA itself can be claimed in advance of that date.

JSP 752 can be found on the intranet, Chapter 7 paragraph 07.0116c covers a mid-assigment move due change of accommodation entitlement. The rates are in Chapter 1 of the same JSP.

mrsdarbs

thanks for that, I was told that you got a different rate?

I don't think we will be entitled to it if the move comes in before 28th August as we marched in to our current property on 28th Feb - is it that you have to have lived in the quarter for 6 months?

fb1969

There is only one rate quoted for each type of DA (owned/rented/SFA/SLA) and I cannot find any reference to a reduced rate. The para I quoted above covers qualifying moves and states: "a mid-assignment move for Service reasons, as a result of a change of Service accommodation entitlement (other than as a result of first setting up of home), or for compassionate, welfare or medical reasons when authorised by SPVA" - that may mean SPVA will make the decision.

To me the march in date is the only that can be proved, so that would be the date for counting six months from and to. DA can be applied for up to 30 days before the move date, we count the move date as the march in date so I don't know how your husband got his paid in Jan for a move at the end of Feb. That could work in your favour if he accidently put a date earlier than the march in date.

I am only at the humble clerk level rather than being the one that takes decisions. I have emailed an SPS friend but it may not be their area either. EDIT - their initial reply is:They would be entitled to move for service reasons as long as DE issue a letter stating it is for ‘service reasons’, this includes changes to family size. Not if they just want to move from a two to a three to keep the spare room though, that is voluntary. If move is for service reasons they get removals and distall regardless I believe. That is from an SPS SSgt