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Left a Temp job with Reed - No Notice?

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  • podperson
    podperson Posts: 3,125 Forumite
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    From what you've said in your initial post then it sounds like Reed are saying to you that it's pointless them putting you forward for another role with the same company as the company's policy is that if you have worked in another role with them then they will check with your previous manager. They are not saying you had a legal obligation to give notice - although it is polite - they are saying because you didn't give notice you are unlikely to get a good reference from your former manager. I have been in temping jobs where I have hated it so in a way I do understand where you are coming from but if you do leave with no notice then you have to accept that it will effect the way your previous employer thinks of you and therefore the reference they may provide.
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    I completely sympathise.

    I did the same this week. I started a job a fortnight ago and the manager took an instant dislike to me. Now I've been a manager in five-star restaurants, but this woman would talk to me like I was a sixteen year old off the street. I've ran larger teams in busier environments, so you would think she would have utilised me more, but no, she insisted on me washing dishes for eight hours a day. Now, I don't mind doing dishes, and I said so when I challenged her. What I do mind is working my !!! off when there are others standing around chatting to each other.

    The last straw was happened last Thursday, the place had a power cut. So what did they do? Pile all the customers into the cafe and charged them £1.80 for a cup of instant coffee using the kettle in the staffroom. I saw so many food hygiene violations [opening fridges, serving soup from kettles which had no power.] When I left on Saturday, I knew I wasn't going back. The cheek was that the place believed it was 5*, all I would say is that I've worked in better places who had 3*.

    Thank you for sympathising with me:o

    Wow, that place that you was working sounds awful! Not good about all those food hygiene violations! I completely agree about managers not untilising people correctly! I am much more able than just sitting sending emails all day with very little variation. I did sooo much more at my previous job and I don't want to put all that knowledge to waste, as I'm sure you can understand!
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    podperson wrote: »
    From what you've said in your initial post then it sounds like Reed are saying to you that it's pointless them putting you forward for another role with the same company as the company's policy is that if you have worked in another role with them then they will check with your previous manager. They are not saying you had a legal obligation to give notice - although it is polite - they are saying because you didn't give notice you are unlikely to get a good reference from your former manager. I have been in temping jobs where I have hated it so in a way I do understand where you are coming from but if you do leave with no notice then you have to accept that it will effect the way your previous employer thinks of you and therefore the reference they may provide.

    Yes, I got an email this morning after emailing my consultant at Reed saying that I wish to still be considered for other temporary roles within the company and my consultant said, and these are her exact words "Hi *insert my name here!*. I wouldn't be able to help you with work within other departments of *insert company name* as they will always ask *insert managers name* for an update on how you worked within her team and as you did not give any notice *insert managers name* would not recommend you to any other managers."

    ....Now...I don't actually even think she has asked my manager what she would say if they DID put my forward for other roles in different departments! Sounds like she's speaking on my ex-managers behalf there....

    Thank you for understanding where I am coming from. I cannot say enough that I know that not giving any notice isn't the best move to make but it's been made now and I can only move forward from this!
  • Just wanted to add a few things. No one is saying you should of stuck there - we're saying had you given notice it would of been better for you. Emailing an office at 7:30 on the day isnt really accepptable. Most offices dont open until 9am, chances are your manager was ringing before the consultant had time to check their emails - it wasnt that they ignored them.

    What you should of done in the first place was after your initial email to the Reed consultant saying you wasnt happy, you should of then informed them that you was giving them a week to sort it or you would leae (then you've given a weeks notice)

    Or alternatively, You could of gone above the manager and complained about her atttitude and have it resolved in house.

    I dont mean this to sound nasty but you do seem a little defensive at times - are you really 110% sure that she was slating you behind your back? could it not of been a progress report?

    How can you be so sure Reed havent spoken to the company to see if they check managers reports? your assuming and as the saying goes "“When you assume, you make an !!! out of u and me.” It could be that the rectuiment agency has had to get the reference for another client and know that they would need one for you. And to be honest, if the company didnt check then i would suggest it wasnt a very good company.
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    Just wanted to add a few things. No one is saying you should of stuck there - we're saying had you given notice it would of been better for you. Emailing an office at 7:30 on the day isnt really accepptable. Most offices dont open until 9am, chances are your manager was ringing before the consultant had time to check their emails - it wasnt that they ignored them.

    What you should of done in the first place was after your initial email to the Reed consultant saying you wasnt happy, you should of then informed them that you was giving them a week to sort it or you would leae (then you've given a weeks notice)

    Or alternatively, You could of gone above the manager and complained about her atttitude and have it resolved in house.

    I dont mean this to sound nasty but you do seem a little defensive at times - are you really 110% sure that she was slating you behind your back? could it not of been a progress report?

    How can you be so sure Reed havent spoken to the company to see if they check managers reports? your assuming and as the saying goes "“When you assume, you make an !!! out of u and me.” It could be that the rectuiment agency has had to get the reference for another client and know that they would need one for you. And to be honest, if the company didnt check then i would suggest it wasnt a very good company.

    I'm not going to sit here & answer all that you have to say but I do know that giving notice would have been better,I have said that countless times today already.

    And yes I am sure that my boss was talking about me behind my back. When my consultant calls me on a day off I had due to my IBS just to tell me that my boss had been on the phone to say that she has noticed I was having time off quite a lot (wouldn't call it a lot at all!) & that she has noticed that other people do my job faster than me, I have the right to wonder! That wasn't just a coincidence that she called her on that day I'm sure. I'm a defensive person, I know the fact so therefore I have a right to defend myself.

    If I do as much hard work job searching as I have done today,I wont be without a job for much longer. Feeling very proud of myself.
  • Your boss was entitled to talk to your recruitment agency about your time off. Have you not thought that maybe they was fed up having to get other staff to do extra work when they had employed you?

    Try and view it from the recruitment agencies point of view. You get 2 candidates - equal qualifications, can both do the job really well. Candidate A has been working for 4 months for the RC, never had a problem. Candidate B has had days off with sickness and walked out of an assignment.

    Which one would you rather employ?
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    Haha well why did they ask me back then?

    Its not all my fault y'know! If there was a miracle cure for IBS & migraines then,believe me,I would take it.

    I'm not talking on this thread anymore now. There's really no point in talking about this anymore as I have left now. End of

    Thanks to those few who actually saw some of it from my point of view! :)
  • hcb42
    hcb42 Posts: 5,962 Forumite
    I think when temping you have to look at the other two sides of the equation. THey need someone with excellent attendance record, regardless of illness "not being your fault" it doesn't help the employer who are paying a premium for a service. Leaving them in the lurch was also a mistake. You need to get agencies on your side, not have them worrying over whether you turn up again or not. If I was that employer left in the lurch (even for hald a day or a day) I would not be happy with the agency at all.

    I am not sure why you posted either though, if you don't want to hear a view from people who can see the alternative position here
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    It's really not my problem that the company who I was working for has a stupid recruitment freeze so won't employ anyone permanently, which would save them a lot of money as they wouldn't have to pay would they. Don't really know why you're sayign you dont know why I posted. I have as much right as anyone to post on here. I just wanted to hear peoples views. I haven't had any problems with anyones views that they have given, I have just defended myself and my positon. Naturally, that's what anyone would do.
    Anyway..I'm done here. Thanks for the advice everyone.
  • x.jem.x
    x.jem.x Posts: 86 Forumite
    hcb42 wrote: »
    THey need someone with excellent attendance record, regardless of illness "not being your fault"

    Why word it like that? It's not like I decided to have the illnesses I have is it? Headaches run in my family and my mum has got Crohns Disease which can all start as IBS and can actually be mis-diagnosed as IBS to start with. I know what I'm talking about.
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