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It looks like i'm going to be evicted... :-(

I hope it's ok to post here about this....i'm just in shock. I came home from work at 9pm tonight and there's a letter from the estate agents, i have two months notice to leave. They will be erecting a To Let notice immediately.

So my landlady is going to re-let....

This is a landlady that appeared at my father's funeral 20 months ago....and i thought it was a friendly gesture. This is someone who i told i had a very serious health scare following the funeral...and now am dealing with my mother's issues concerning losing her home.

I just don't understand. I phoned her tonight and she just kept coughing down the phone saying she was very ill and call in a few days. I asked if she was definitely wanting me to vacate the property and she said yes, but didn't wish to answer any further questions.

I have honestley had no major problems with this landlady apart from she's had an issue with mould forming around the windows and has said it was my fault....but the two really cold winter's we had it was impossible to stop it or the condensation that occurred. All i could do was keep it down.

There was one other issue with change of rental date and it took me a few months to pay the difference in the rent. The usual rent was being paid but an amount to account for an extra two weeks at the end of the tenancy i just didn't have....but it was paid within about 4-5 weeks. The usual rent was always paid on time.

The lady who lives below me said she would vouch for the fact that i've been one of the quietest and friendliest and most supportive neighbours.

I'm in a state of shock. I expect this is legal what she is doing, but would have thought I would have had to do a lot worse for her to behave this way. :-(

Thoughts? Do you think there is anything i can do?

My neighbour said write her a letter tonight and copy it to the estate agents and get it to her first thing in the morning.

Thanks for listening
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  • Her property, her decision, however hard that might be to accept.

    Loads of legal steps to take, in order to evict you, if you do not want to leave.

    If she is truly re-letting it, then it is either you or she wants to up the rent.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    I hope it's ok to post here about this....i'm just in shock. I came home from work at 9pm tonight and there's a letter from the estate agents, i have two months notice to leave. They will be erecting a To Let notice immediately.

    So my landlady is going to re-let....

    This is a landlady that appeared at my father's funeral 20 months ago....and i thought it was a friendly gesture. This is someone who i told i had a very serious health scare following the funeral...and now am dealing with my mother's issues concerning losing her home.

    I just don't understand. I phoned her tonight and she just kept coughing down the phone saying she was very ill and call in a few days. I asked if she was definitely wanting me to vacate the property and she said yes, but didn't wish to answer any further questions.

    I have honestley had no major problems with this landlady apart from she's had an issue with mould forming around the windows and has said it was my fault....but the two really cold winter's we had it was impossible to stop it or the condensation that occurred. All i could do was keep it down.

    There was one other issue with change of rental date and it took me a few months to pay the difference in the rent. The usual rent was being paid but an amount to account for an extra two weeks at the end of the tenancy i just didn't have....but it was paid within about 4-5 weeks. The usual rent was always paid on time.

    The lady who lives below me said she would vouch for the fact that i've been one of the quietest and friendliest and most supportive neighbours.

    I'm in a state of shock. I expect this is legal what she is doing, but would have thought I would have had to do a lot worse for her to behave this way. :-(

    Thoughts? Do you think there is anything i can do?

    My neighbour said write her a letter tonight and copy it to the estate agents and get it to her first thing in the morning.

    Thanks for listening

    that's renting i'm afraid. she doesn't need to have a logical reason for ending the tenancy, she just has to serve proper notice.

    you could try offering to pay more money and see if that changes her mind, otherwise you'll have to start looking for somewhere else to live.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Don't panic and don't rush into things. Yes, a letter may be a good idea (to the LL, not the agent - it's the LL's decision) but take a bit of time to think things through and decide how best to write it.

    Or wait a few days as she suggested, and call again.

    Bottom line is, yes, it's probobly legal (I assume you have a periodic tenancy? not a fixed term? Also that if you are in Eng/Wales your deposit has been protected in a scheme - if not any S21 Notice is invalid, and I assume this is a S21 Notice you've received).

    Your 2 months notice must align with your rental periods. Does it? What date does you rent period run from/to (check your original tenancy contract to see when it ran out and your periodic tenancy started).

    When the 2 months is up, she still cannot make you leave without a court order, so you have plenty of time (especially if she's made a mistake on the dates or your deposit is not protected).

    However, at the end of the day, if she wants you to leave she CAN make you.
  • G_M wrote: »
    Or wait a few days as she suggested, and call again.

    Thanks - and i will check out all your other points in the morning - i think they are all in order from first glance.

    The only thing with waiting is that a To Let sign is going up immediately - so i'm expecting to hear them hammering it in in the morning! lol!

    and i'm thinking once that's happened and she gets interest then she won't be bothered with me.
  • If she is truly re-letting it, then it is either you or she wants to up the rent.

    She always talks down her nose at me - but she is known in our community by everyone as being like that.....i really don't know therefore whether she has an issue with me personally....

    but considering her friendly gestures (what was the turning up at my dad's funeral about???!!!!!) I wouldn't have thought so - unless it was the things i mentioned. I thought they mean't i wasn't perfect but they were minor in the whole scheme of things. Open to anyone's thoughts on this though. :-(

    I'm more in shock about all this because of everything else that's happening, with my mum lsoing her home, etc too....otherwise this would probably be more of an adventure for me - new place and all that, but right now it's just another thing i have to coordinate and handle - and my plate is really overflowing already

    thanks again for listening
  • G_M
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    Bear in mind also that it is up to you whether or not you allow her (or her agents) to show prospective tenants round.

    If you refuse to allow them to do this, a 'To Let' sign is pretty pointless!

    You are entitled to quiet enjoyment of the property until your tenancy ends (which is when you are told to leave by a court - not her).

    Given that you feel hard-done-by you may decide not to cooperate on viewings. If so, put your objection in writing making it clear you will not agree to your quiet enjoyment of the property being disturbed by viewings. It is up to you whether you allow limited viewings (eg one night a week). If you fear/suspect the agent may use their own key when you are out, change the lock.

    Additionally, if you do agree to viewings, you are under no obligation to 'tidy the property' etc. It's your home so you can live how you like. If a tenant is shown round on a day when you happen to have a house full of dirty/smelly washing, and you happen to mention that the LL is a nightmare, well, too bad!

    Of course you will probobly then not get a good reference if you need one, but there again, sounds like you can't guarantee that anyway.
  • Thanks, it's so late and I must try and sleep before work tomorrow....I will consider everything you've said.

    Is there any reason that a landlandy might do this that isn't personal? I'm taking this very personally. No one's ever disliked me this much.....I thought to get evicted you had to repeatedly not pay rent on time or something (something really bad) and i've paid my rent on time every month.

    I'm wracking my brains trying to work out why she might be doing this....and it's not helping that she won't talk to me.
  • franklee
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    Is there any reason that a landlandy might do this that isn't personal? I'm taking this very personally. No one's ever disliked me this much.....I thought to get evicted you had to repeatedly not pay rent on time or something (something really bad) and i've paid my rent on time every month.

    I'm wracking my brains trying to work out why she might be doing this....and it's not helping that she won't talk to me.
    Presumably you have been served a Section 21 notice? This is a no fault notice and so it doesn't depend on how good (or not) a tenant has been, the landlord doesn't have to give any reason why she is using it. However if you are a good tenant perhaps she just wants more rent or thinks you may turn into a late payer if your heath is bad, who knows it could be anything and there is no need for it to be logical.

    I do sympathise as it's rotten having to move when inconvenient but that's a tenant's lot.

    You could post a few more details to see if anyone has any comments as to the validity of the S21, a landlord has to get the dates etc. right. If you want to do that supply the tenancy start date, when the last fixed term started and ends or ended, the date on the S21 and how that bit is worded. Also if you paid a deposit is it protected in a scheme and were you given the prescribed information (written details of the scheme).
  • Imelda
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    Another thing to consider might be that EAs have persuaded her to kick you out and get a new tenant in, that they can get her more rent money. But in reality it's just so they can get another lot of fees, having tenants sitting in a property long term does not make them money does it?

    Try not to take it personally, it's just business.
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  • silvercar
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    Imelda wrote: »
    Another thing to consider might be that EAs have persuaded her to kick you out and get a new tenant in, that they can get her more rent money. But in reality it's just so they can get another lot of fees, having tenants sitting in a property long term does not make them money does it?

    Try not to take it personally, it's just business.

    Suspect this could well be the reason. Phone the letting agent and tell them you are interested in renting it. Find out if the rent is that much higher than you are currently paying, then negotiate with the landlady to continue. Remember if she sticks with you there would be no letting fees to pay.

    It could be that the landlady wants the property managed by an agency and so is moving everything over to them - no reason why you couldn't rent the place through the agency.
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