pac code

bluenose5_2

can you get a pac code if you are on a payg with asdamobile ?

simax

bluenose5 wrote: »

can you get a pac code if you are on a payg with asdamobile ?

In a word, yes.

ILoveEoin

yes! every mobile number has a pac code attached 2 it , in a word ur lettin asda use it at the min but u own it! so just ring them and ask 4 it:)

grumbler

ILoveEoin wrote: »

yes! every mobile number has a pac code attached 2 it

I think this statement is incorrect.

Every number can get a PAC attached to it for 30 days.

Guys_Dad

bluenose5 wrote: »

can you get a pac code if you are on a payg with asdamobile ?

Yes - did it last year. Very efficient they were too.

jayme1

ILoveEoin wrote: »

in a word ur lettin asda use it at the min but u own it! so just ring them and ask 4 it:)

nope you never 'own' a mobile number, the company that originally had it always own it and when you move networks that original network just forwards your calls to your new network. And if that old network goes under/bust you can loose your number.

eg
get a new sim from o2 with a number, you then move to ASDA, then you later move to vodafone, your mobile number always is owned by O2 and all you are doing when you move networks is changing where the number points to in a database.

a little information here 3rd paragraph from the bottom

grumbler

jayme1 wrote: »

....when you move networks that original network just forwards your calls to your new network. ...

a little information here 3rd paragraph from the bottom

I know, this is what the article you link to says, bit IMHO this doesn't make much sense.
The networks may or may not share the transmitters (masts). If they don't and I move say, from Voda to '3' then definitely I'll be connected to '3', not to Voda. How can Voda forward my calls then?
I guess they mean the incoming calls only.

Techhead_2

Its incoming calls that are routed by the original provider.

We've already had at least one example of a small provider going under and. customers losing their numbers for incoming calls (although Vodafone 'adopted' some)

jayme1

yeah you would definately be connected to a 3 mast, but the number would still be on vodafones servers.

so for incoming calls and texts someone dials your number, say they are on O2,

• O2 looks at the number against their database and it shows 'vodafone' so they route the call off to vodafone,
• vodafone then looks at their database and it says the number is now on 3 mobile, so vodafone reroute the call off to 3,
• 3 then look at their database for the number they then get the individual IDs of the SIM and check if it is 1. online and then, if it is, 2. check which mast you are connected to and send the call to your phone.

this is the highly inefficient method, because it relys on the donor network, in this case vodafone, which if it went bust your mobile numbers gone with them.

for out going calls so say 3 calling O2 I have no idea how that works, I would imagine it is above in reverse, or just a form of number spoofing, after all a mobile number is in reality just a glorified email address/web domain. like if you send an email on behalf of another email address in gmail

have a read of this wikipedia page it explains it, and it explians the method most of europe uses (the central database method) which is much more efficient and you wouldnt loose your ported number if the doner network went under.
it also says that ofcom demanded we changed to the better CDB method by 1st sep 2009, though no citation is given, I would like to know if it has been changed.

ILoveEoin

sorry i was wrong, very interestin answers thou:) so a person better off gettin a number from the company u want 2 join?

bluenose5_2

i did it and got it (pac code):T