Staff refusing to work overtime because of tax credits.

kimmy112

katiesmummy wrote: »

I agree with those who suggested time off in lieu- If my boss offered me this in return for all the overtime I did I would jump at the chance- I currently do around 10 hours a week o/t and I get nowt.

my hours have just been dropped to 4 a week

melly1980

flea72 wrote: »

erm, no need to get so het up love

but if someones busy period is april, then they would be mad to arrange their year end around this time. not only for the time involved for stocktaking, reduced staffing (70% workforce have kids on school holidays), and collating information for accounts, but for tax payments too

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they will do it to tie it in someway with the end of financial year. It isnt a bloody choice you know.

Simple fact is this, 70% of his staff are unwilling to pull their weight and muck in like the others. If they want it that way then fine however failing to come in may result in failing to supply an order. This results in lost orders and in turn lost jobs. Those who are unwilling to muck in should remember this as they will be the first out of the gate and rightly so.

flea72

melly1980 wrote: »

they will do it to tie it in someway with the end of financial year. It isnt a bloody choice you know

if someone has a seasonal business they should try to work their financial year around their quiet times

ie. an easter egg seller - if they had end of year April, they would have to spend extra time on stocktake as their shelves could be fuller, and some years they could have two easters fall in one tax year, and the next year with none at all

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meluvnext

Can I have a job, I live in the north east

AnxiousMum

nottslass wrote: »

!!!!!! ! I did not for one moment state that the OP treats their staff badly - I just suggested that MAYBE that could be (one of )the reasons why the staff didn't want to work OT.
Much more constructive than suggesting the OP sack the staff don't you think ............?

Okay, so in that case then, maybe the workers don't want to work as they have absolutely no commitment to their employer or their job, and don't give a rats !!! whether the company gets all accomplished that it needs to in order to run smoothly and guarantee their employment? Not saying that IS the case, but maybe the employees are just lazy gits that want to hang out and drink all weekend

Googlewhacker

Skintgirlx wrote: »

Perhaps if you paid your workers more in the first place, then they wouldn't be reduced to relying on help from the State? Just a thought.....

This statement is just stupid, say we raised everyones wage upto £7.50 an hour as minimum it pushes all the cost of items in living etc to pay for this up so in real terms being on £7.50 makes you no better off and again relying on 'the state'

Also how do you know the OP is making enough money to offer more money?

Also if those members of staff want to earn more why not just start their own business up and pay staff more money and see how long they last?

Also if they want more money why not get another job that pays more?

just a thought....

diable

dark_lady wrote: »

Did anyone notice the bad grammar in the original post. And this is supposed to be an employer? The bad grammar makes me wonder if this is a troll.

North East, init.........

Googlewhacker

dark_lady wrote: »

Did anyone notice the bad grammar in the original post. And this is supposed to be an employer? The bad grammar makes me wonder if this is a troll.

It's a forum, people write without checking, I wonder how many times you checked before posting your above comment just in case you got something wrong (I didn't see owt wrong though )

Googlewhacker

bitemebankers wrote: »

At the end of the day, does it matter what reason they give? You have no right to demand that they do overtime and they don't owe you an explanation if they're unwilling to do it. If you need more staff, take more people on, either on a casual or part-time basis.

If you knew April was going to be a busy month anyway, it would have been a good idea to ask your existing staff if they were prepared to work overtime back in the early spring, giving you plenty of time to recruit if they were unwilling.

It's the six 'P's, really.



Not necessarily. The standards of literacy on these boards are generally atrocious.

If it was part of the contract then yes the employer is entitled to expect people to do occasional overtime, its not likely they are asking for this constantly but more than likely a one off.

OP if you are reading this just make a note of those who actually tried to help you out and those that didn't and then when you need to make decisions you can reward those that helped over those that didn't

flea72

melly1980 wrote: »

Simple fact is this, 70% of his staff are unwilling to pull their weight and muck in like the others. If they want it that way then fine however failing to come in may result in failing to supply an order. This results in lost orders and in turn lost jobs. Those who are unwilling to muck in should remember this as they will be the first out of the gate and rightly so.

If you pay well, and treat your staff well, then the majority would be prepared to help you out, when needed, tax credits or not

i still dont see how this has only just cropped up this year. tax credits have been around for nigh on 10yrs, so if april's a busy time what has the OP done in other years?

but anyway it looks like the OP is otherwise engaged to be able to come back and fill in the cracks with their story. like whether the wedding is being given as an additional b/h, or if staff doing o/t are getting double, or time off in lieu, etc. - my moneys on flat rate, and b/h inclusive

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