Was this car in the wrong?

sequence

You have to be trolling! You would fail your driving test for indicating when there was no one around to benefit from the signal.

Would you expect a car to indicate to go round the road works ? Or slow down and give way if there was another car approaching at speed ?

Norman_Castle

From the highway code
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example

• approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
• where the road narrows
• when approaching a school crossing patrol
• between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop
• where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works
• when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down

The cyclist maintains poor road position. He would fail the UK motorcycle test with a riding style like that.

He would fail if he turned up on a pushbike

janninew

sequence wrote: »

You have to be trolling! You would fail your driving test for indicating when there was no one around to benefit from the signal.

Would you expect a car to indicate to go round the road works ? Or slow down and give way if there was another car approaching at speed ?

It would only be a minor surely if you indicated when there was no benefit to anybody?

DCodd

sequence wrote: »

You have to be trolling! You would fail your driving test for indicating when there was no one around to benefit from the signal.

Would you expect a car to indicate to go round the road works ? Or slow down and give way if there was another car approaching at speed ?

Why would you fail your driving test for a signal that no one would see? Have you not heard of the "critical Man" approach? i.e. the signal is for the benefit of a road user that is as yet unseen.

Has the Road traffic act been amended to outlaw signals that no one sees?;)

Bongles

asbokid wrote: »

Exactly how do you "communicate effectively" your intention to move off, without using an indicator?

That might well be how you decide to communicate your intention in the situation you describe. My point was that your obligation is not to flick the orange flashing lights just on because you're about to turn the steering wheel. Your obligation is to consider who you want to communicate with, what you want to communicate, what you want them to do about it and whether they might think you meant something else. Once you've considered that, you might well conclude that flicking on the orange flashing lights is a good idea.

asbokid wrote: »

When you have decided to perform a manoeuvre of that type, you should always indicate, whether or not there are other road users in your immediate vision.

Why? If you've considered all the above and concluded that is nobody to benefit and nobody who might be mislead, then it is of no consequence whether you signal or not before you move. As soon as you're moving, the position and orientation of your vehicle is going to be communicating your intention anyway.

asbokid wrote: »

You would automatically fail the driving test for telling the examiner that you indicate "Only if there's someone there to see the signal".

Are you a driving examiner?