Nuramol - new painkiller

datostar

Swan wrote: »

I'm not trying to be picky, but it's a good idea to know exactly what drugs you're taking

Co-Dydramol is paracetamol + dihydrocodeine which is much stronger than standard codeine

paracetamol + codeine is Co-Codamol

Thanks. It is powerful stuff with an addiction and drowsiness warning. I ended up taking ibuprofen during the day and one Co-Dydramol before going to bed for sleep purposes. Having removed the cause of the muscle pain (Lipitor), I don't need the painkillers at all now and my leg is recovering well.

Swan_2

datostar wrote: »

Thanks. It is powerful stuff with an addiction and drowsiness warning. I ended up taking ibuprofen during the day and one Co-Dydramol before going to bed for sleep purposes. Having removed the cause of the muscle pain (Lipitor), I don't need the painkillers at all now and my leg is recovering well.

Glad to hear you're getting better

I was prescibed Co-Dydramol for a bone injury & although I didn't ever get any side effects from it, I was very wary about the possibilities of addiction.
I rarely use it now, only when I've wrenched my arm or lifted something too heavy, & sometimes when the weather's very cold.

cagneyfan

datostar wrote: »

You don't happen to be taking any kind of statin drug for cholesterol reduction, do you? I've been struck twice with muscle pains, first with Simvastatin, and latterly with Lipitor (which I foolishly allowed myself to try instead of the Simvastatin). When I stop taking them the pain eventually goes away. It's insidious stuff, both times it has been several months on it before the problems start. This last time the GP (a keen statinator) tried to tell me it was RSI in my left thigh (causing muscle swelling, distortion, excruciating pain and visible spasms, spreading into my knee and down my shin!). Off the statin for 2 months now and most of the pain has gone, so I'm off the painkillers as well. I was told to expect it to take 6 to 9 months for the muscles to repair from the alleged RSI.

Hi, no I don't take any statin drug. I'm not sure what to do you know. I stayed away from any medical people for 14 years and only went back last year. But everything I've had done has been a struggle or delayed, or not shown anything wrong. Blood tests - no arthritis (but still in pain), physio that was recommended by the pain clinic - been refused as it's from another pct, I appealed but some jobsworth just spent ages waffling on and sending 3 pages of A4 as to why I can't have physio despite the pain clinic doctor saying I needed it. I had x-rays, but they didn't x-ray everything that was hurting - neck pain for only a few months they gave an x-ray for, but hip pain that has been hurting for years and stops me sleeping - they never x-rayed!

I had an MRI a few weeks ago and heard nothing. Don't know if I have to wait for pain clinic or gp to get in touch.

I got some minor physio at the gp's (just for my back) but the physio (who is very nice) just seems to spend most of the time telling me to go down the 'depressed' route. I am depressed, but it's because I'm in pain!!! I don't want pills because every time I go to the gp's after that with any problem you can guarantee it'll be put down to depression. Oh I'm off on a rant again.....

By the way, my dad took statins and had horrendous side effects, bad dreams and hallucinating! He stopped in the end and decided to try and lower his cholestral with his diet

cagneyfan

Starrystarrynight wrote: »

Sorry to hear you have so much pain, OP, and I hope that you can get some relief from it very soon.
I have had osteochondritis in my foot since I was a teenager, and now arthritis, too. Had 4 ops and still in awful pain. Makes me so miserable some days, I must turning into a proper grumpy cow! :-( Still live in hope that I will find something to help control it. DIY nuramol will be my next try.

If you are a grumpy cow - it's to be expected, but then I think mainly only people in pain can understand that.

I texted my brother on Sunday and said that I was absolutely knackered and all I'd done was wash my hair at 1pm (I have terrible fatigue on top of everything else). I said that my wrist was killing me from trying to get out the bath and that I was wrecked. I didn't end up getting the bathroom cleaned until 7pm that night.

He texted back, 'be postitive, postitive, postitive, instead of negative, negative, negative. Life's too short!

I know life's too short which is why being in pain adds to the depression as you feel life is slipping by. I was so bloody angry I texted back and said 'Platitudes like that should be grounds for a defence of murder! It's up there with that pop picker 'life's not a reahearsal' and there's always someone worse off than yourself'. I've not heard from him since!

All that does to a depressed, pained person is make them feel worse. Worse for themselves, and worse because they feel guilty if they whinge when there's other people also in pain.

I felt like saying to my brother that it's easy to be positive when you're happy, healthy etc. I wonder how long he'd remain so if he had constant pain and felt that no-one either believed or cared that much. That's the other problem, if you have constant ongoing pain then people lose patience and belief. If you have a broken leg and whinge for 6 weeks, people tolerate it. But if you have longer health problems, people get bored with it and then become less believing.

The mad thing is, that I feel that I do put on a pretty good act considering. Other people probably wouldn't think so as I'm a miserable sod. But if I acted the way I feel I'd be on the floor screaming and tearing my hair out!

kurgon

cagneyfan wrote: »

I Blood tests have shown there's no arthritis and I'm scared to go back in case they think I'm a faker.

Blood test only rul out Rheumatois rthritis, they do not shoiw any issues with osteo-srthritis. I am not sure how old you are but they seldom test for this in younger people (x-ray) but it is still there. I got it when I was 32.

cagneyfan

kurgon wrote: »

Blood test only rul out Rheumatois rthritis, they do not shoiw any issues with osteo-srthritis. I am not sure how old you are but they seldom test for this in younger people (x-ray) but it is still there. I got it when I was 32.

I'm 46 - so when I go back to the gp and they say there's no arthritis, I should then be able to ask about osteo-arthritis? I've been really worried that they are just going to say I'm not really in pain and that I'm imagining it. I'm not! I wonder if they would consider a bone scan or is that only for oaps?

The pain feels like if I put too much weight on my knees they'll break! and
also, as I walk along I suddenly get a searing pain and my knees go from under me.

It's not just my knees that happens to, it's just that my knees are what's really hurting badly at the minute.

Just re-read your post. You only mention blood tests. I have also had x-rays and they showed no arthritis - so it looks like I'm jiggered. What else can cause severe joint pain?

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

kurgon wrote: »

Blood test only rul out Rheumatois rthritis, they do not shoiw any issues with osteo-srthritis. I am not sure how old you are but they seldom test for this in younger people (x-ray) but it is still there. I got it when I was 32.

Nope, the doctors are wrong here. The 'test for RA' actually only demonstrates whether there is a substance called Rheumatoid Factor in the blood. This leads to the term sero-positive Rheumatoid Arthritis. You can test positive for rheumatoid factor and not have a single symptom. There is also sero-negative Rheumatoid Arthritis, which means rheumatoid arthritis without a positive rheumatoid factor test. It also doesn't show other related conditions which equally damage joints, as it isn't looking for them.

The bloods should have an ESR and CRP level on them - they show whether there is any inflammation. If they weren't tested, then he can't say there is nothing wrong.

You would be quite reasonable to say that as arthritis can be in a myriad of forms, and that you would like to see a rheumatologist, as the current position is that you are unable to function in any way, shape or form, and if something is there, treatment can be started sooner rather than later.

sunnyone

when_will_it_end wrote: »

just off topic the ibuprofen creams, do they have the same affect to the stomach as taking tablets sorry if it seems like a daft question does any one use it?

The NSAID creams have the same affects on you stomach as oral forms of the drugs, I cant take any, even COX2s make my ulcers bleed.

ndall

As others have pointed out, nuromol just contains paracetamol (so monitor what other paracetamol you're taking - eg lemsip - to make sure you stay within recommended dose) and ibuprofen (similar mechanism/side-effects to aspirin so don't mix).

Having said that...

cagneyfan wrote: »

Is there any particular reason why the more expensive ones work better, or do people just think that they work better?

Actually there is. The more expensive ones work better BECAUSE people just think that they work better. Studies on the placebo effect suggest that a painkiller in shiny packaging is more effective at treating pain than the same drug in plain packaging. You've absorbed all those adverts and they affect your expectation for the drug. And that ends up actually affecting the level of pain you report.

OK, so now you know there's no difference in the actual drug you think you're more informed than those other more suggestible dopes and it won't work on you any more. The crazy thing is there is even evidence suggesting that the placebo effect still applies when you know all about it.

Sounds very flaky and new-agey, but scientists take it seriously.

Anyway, you still might find it hard to justify paying many times the price for nuromol as you would for the same ingredients separately in generic form. I think I'd still be inclined to get some supermarket own brand ibuprofen and paracetamol for pennies. Personally the idea of massively overpaying for a drug and being affected by drug company marketing would probably be more painful to me than the pain itself.

shammyjack

sunnyone wrote: »

The NSAID creams have the same affects on you stomach as oral forms of the drugs, I cant take any, even COX2s make my ulcers bleed.

COX2 inhibitors were pulled from normal use a few years ago due to long term health concerns. Unfortunate for me as VIOXX was the only one that worked and gave any relief .


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