Are you against the proposed new road pricing policy...

Jamie85

Don't know if I can post this or not, but have a look if you don't want to get shafted for being a motorist.

"The government’s proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.

The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver.

A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect an NIP with your monthly bill.

If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the Car/Van/Bike User, please sign the petition on No 10's new website: "

The petition

piggeh

I'd like to see them try and charge £200 for a device which no one wants, and that infringes on an individual's right to privacy. And imagine how many will 'break' during the first few days!

david29dpo

i think pay as you drive is a fairer system and it could be done very easily now by scraping the road fund tax and putting it on fuel, as in jersey.

philhuff

david29dpo wrote:

i think pay as you drive is a fairer system and it could be done very easily now by scraping the road fund tax and putting it on fuel, as in jersey.

I quite agree. It also has the extra benefit of taxing the least economical and (usually) the most polluting vehicles.

Scrapping the road tax would give me about £17 a month to pay for the miles I travel. Not really knowing how much they'll charge, I'd still imagine that my limited (if ridiculously uneconomical) travel could just put me into profit.

saintjanet

philhuff wrote:

I quite agree. It also has the extra benefit of taxing the least economical and (usually) the most polluting vehicles.

Scrapping the road tax would give me about £17 a month to pay for the miles I travel. Not really knowing how much they'll charge, I'd still imagine that my limited (if ridiculously uneconomical) travel could just put me into profit.

No offence but if you think you may be better off,you are living in a world of fantasy.I thought this would be the case when the poll tax,or whatever they first called it ,replaced the rates many years ago,how wrong i was!!

I have seen crazy figures quoted in the daily express, something like £1.30 per mile, to travel ,in peak time,if they are to be believed!!The goverment will not just do what the other poster said and transfer road tax to petrol prices,this has been suggested for many years,they want the additional charges per mile.

brazilianwax

We already pay per mile through the taxation on petrol.

More miles = more petrol (especially when you drive a car that does between 4 and 12 miles to the gallon - gulp!:rolleyes: )

philhuff

saintjanet wrote:

No offence but if you think you may be better off,you are living in a world of fantasy.I thought this would be the case when the poll tax,or whatever they first called it ,replaced the rates many years ago,how wrong i was!!

I don't think it's a world of fantasy at all. I now either walk to work or, despite the fact it's less than a mile away from my office, work at home. That leaves just my personal travel, and a lot of that involves a train down the main line to London. I'm perhaps in a minority, but it works for me.

Regardless of that, I'm all in favour of 'fair' taxes, if such a thing can exist. Council Tax isn't one of them, sadly. I'd support (in theory) a local income tax, even though I know that would make me worse off.

I can just see beyond the Daily Mail's rants and work out what it means for me personally, be that road charging, local taxation, a pollution tax, or whatever. Most cost me more, a handful save me small amounts - road charging is, for me at least, one of the savers, although I don't agree with it.

saintjanet

philhuff wrote:

I don't think it's a world of fantasy at all. I now either walk to work or, despite the fact it's less than a mile away from my office, work at home. That leaves just my personal travel, and a lot of that involves a train down the main line to London. I'm perhaps in a minority, but it works for me.

Regardless of that, I'm all in favour of 'fair' taxes, if such a thing can exist. Council Tax isn't one of them, sadly. I'd support (in theory) a local income tax, even though I know that would make me worse off.

I can just see beyond the Daily Mail's rants and work out what it means for me personally, be that road charging, local taxation, a pollution tax, or whatever. Most cost me more, a handful save me small amounts - road charging is, for me at least, one of the savers, although I don't agree with it.

Sadly i cant walk to work and cover 40 miles each day,just imagine the costs that would mean to me and many others,i did not mean to be unkind by saying you were in a world of fantasy,i have just lived long enough to know that the government will do very few people a favour if it implements this.

philhuff

saintjanet wrote:

Sadly i cant walk to work and cover 40 miles each day,just imagine the costs that would mean to me and many others,i did not mean to be unkind by saying you were in a world of fantasy,i have just lived long enough to know that the government will do very few people a favour if it implements this.

I quite agree with you and, as I commented, don't support the ideas, even if they could save me a few quid.

I was being very specific about my own circumstances, and not suggesting for one moment that world+dog will be better off.

wolvoman

brazilianwax wrote:

We already pay per mile through the taxation on petrol.

More miles = more petrol (especially when you drive a car that does between 4 and 12 miles to the gallon - gulp!:rolleyes: )

Correct, but as more and more cars become either electric, hybrid, biofuel, lpg or just more economical because of environmental concerns and taxes against higher emission vehicles then the government's take of money from motorists will begin to fall. And they need a replacement for petrol duty to cover this shortfall - hence electronic per-mile charging.

Of much more concern to me with this scheme is the personal privacy issue and the likelihood they will use it to enforce ever more draconian speed limits.

brazilianwax

wolvoman wrote:

Correct, but as more and more cars become either electric, hybrid, biofuel, lpg or just more economical because of environmental concerns and taxes against higher emission vehicles then the government's take of money from motorists will begin to fall. And they need a replacement for petrol duty to cover this shortfall - hence electronic per-mile charging.

Of much more concern to me with this scheme is the personal privacy issue and the likelihood they will use it to enforce ever more draconian speed limits.

Agreed.

I won't be trading in my baby for an electric, hybrid or biofuel car. Life's too short to drive a !!!!!! car!!!