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Incapacity to Esa switch over Question
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Invalidation wrote: »Logically they should start with a clean sheet and do it alphabetically.
How can they do it on review dates when some of us have no review date and never have?
Why alphabetically, they could just as easily do it on length of time time receiving the benifit or on an age basis,say do the young people first.(No offence to anyone youthful,just an example)
If you check the Disability Alliance website (I came across this information Googling Migration of Incapacity Benefit)there is a fact sheet dated February 2011 detailing Key Asspects of the Migration.This still states the migration will use peoples review date.I quote
'the date of a customer’s re-assessment will be based on the review date of their Personal Capability Assessment'
NB anyone know what method they used in the trial areas started I believe last October.0 -
I was told that wheelchair users who cannot use a self propelled type ( ie who have to have a carer push them) are also put in the support group.0
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i would guess if you havent got a review date they would see when you were last reviewed and add the standard period of your periodic reviews to that time- ie if your reviewed every 3 years and were last reviewed in say 2010 your next review will be 2013--i would expect when your reviewed they put an 'admin' date for next reassessment but just dont send it to you!
İf someone is assessed earlier it will be be interesting if people challenge reassessment based on the fact they have a letter stating the date of there next reviewal and want that adhered to--as they state on their website that is the process!
But I have never had a review full stop and have been on IVB for 20 years and they cant go back and invent one now.CouponWoman wrote: »I was told that wheelchair users who cannot use a self propelled type ( ie who have to have a carer push them) are also put in the support group.
Instead of walking they now talk of mobelising to be fair to wheelchair users that work (thats what they say!!!!!) but if you cant self propel a wheelchair you SHOULD get 15 points just for that and be put into the support group but that dosnt mean thats what will happen when I turn up in my NHS powerchair, they dont give out NHS powerchairs unless you have very major disabilities but anyone can buy one.0 -
IB claimants will be moved on their re-assessment date, unless they are PCA exempt in which case it will be in the first year. SDA and IS for illness will be last.
The vast majority will at the least have to complete the ESA50 form, a significant majority 90% of those will have to attend a medical. Currently only 6% of claimants are put into the Support Group and while the DWP expect this to go up with the transfer, their best estimate in only 9%.0 -
i would guess if you havent got a review date they would see when you were last reviewed and add the standard period of your periodic reviews to that time- ie if your reviewed every 3 years and were last reviewed in say 2010 your next review will be 2013--i would expect when your reviewed they put an 'admin' date for next reassessment but just dont send it to you!
İf someone is assessed earlier it will be be interesting if people challenge reassessment based on the fact they have a letter stating the date of there next reviewal and want that adhered to--as they state on their website that is the process!
I was last reviewed in 1994 !
That was the date I was thrown onto the scrapheap by the NHSThe DWP = Legally kicking the Disabled when they are down.0 -
Invalidation wrote: »Logically they should start with a clean sheet and do it alphabetically.
How can they do it on review dates when some of us have no review date and never have?
According to Benefits and Work, people with no review date will be dealt with first and should expect to receive the form any time between Feb 2011 and Feb 2012
So I am one of the people who are holding their breath, waiting for the brown envelope to drop on the mat.
You can download a PDF of the new form and complete it on-line and print it off. When the form arrives, you can simply sign the paper form and attach the printout to it. If you are a member of B&W you can download their guides to completing the form. I think it costs about £19 for a year's membership.
I'm not currently a member, but I am going to join and download the ESA form, and complete it ahead of time because I can only do a bit each day, and I'm under three different consultants, so it will take time to get reports from each of them (I intend to submit reports with the ESA form - I don't know if that is recommended, but it seems to me that full information can only increase the possibility of a decision being made without a medical).
I am on HRM HRC DLA, so exempt from medicals under the old rules, but not under the new rules.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »According to Benefits and Work, people with no review date will be dealt with first and should expect to receive the form any time between Feb 2011 and Feb 2012
So I am one of the people who are holding their breath, waiting for the brown envelope to drop on the mat.
You can download a PDF of the new form and complete it on-line and print it off. When the form arrives, you can simply sign the paper form and attach the printout to it. If you are a member of B&W you can download their guides to completing the form. I think it costs about £19 for a year's membership.
I'm afraid Ive got better things to do with my money than give it to a website that profits from Disabled.The DWP = Legally kicking the Disabled when they are down.0 -
Invalidation wrote: »I'm afraid Ive got better things to do with my money than give it to a website that profits from Disabled.
Okay, I do partly agree with you. But on the other hand, if their guidance sheets help me to make sense of the new forms, and enable me to be prepared for the inevitable, then I am willing to pay the fee. In any case, once the juggernaut gets going I am sure I'll have a constant stream of emails asking for help, so on that basis I don't really begrudge the membership fee.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0
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