13 year old son in trouble for selling Pepsi at school

annibee

pigpen wrote: »

Mine was threatened with expulsion for a similar offense (he was selling PC games from the £1 shop for £1.50) He took his 'business' off school property and all was fine.. then his 'friend' had the idea of selling weed.. made a killing selling to 12 and 13 y/o's.. in year 11 alone.. 5 were expelled, 2 died of drug overdoses after he branched out into heroin, and he is now in prison.. genius! Perfect business skills at 19 (which is all he is now with a conviction for dealing).

Wow! What school was this in? bet it was in all the papers!!! that amount of kids on heroin at that age :eek:

Becles

My sons sell stuff in school. They buy things at the shop by the bus stop and sell them to people who don't pass a shop on the way to school. They buy multipacks of sweets or packets of biscuits and sell them individually.

I've said they shouldn't really be doing it but some teachers turn a blind eye to it.

They save the money up and buy things they want like books and stuff.

Fang_3

pigpen wrote: »

It isn't business though is it? Where are the taxes and accounts and paperwork?

Ponder this - if your definition of business is correct - are countries that don't require such accounts and paperwork completely without businesses? Or are you confusing business with business practice within the UK?

pigpen wrote: »

It is a young man being told it is ok to ignore school rules for financial gain... that really isn't a good thing..

Who has told him that?

pigpen wrote: »

Where would he draw the line? Mum says it is ok to sell drinks.. so if I sell stolen goods/cigaretes/drugs/cars/houses that will be ok too.. It is the message he is getting that counts not what he is selling.

Are you having trouble with the concept of what is legal and what is illegal? The rest of us seem to be perfectly clear on it.

Fang_3

pigpen wrote: »

then you are possibly very naive.. a great proportion of the kids who bought drugs were from the more affluent families.. they had more 'free cash' .. parents were decent hard working people who had provided everything their sons desired.. gave them loads of pocket money so they could be 'independant' ... and 2 are now dead (one I know his parents are both solicitors)

Morals don't come in to it with a group of adolescent boys more often than not.. very few would have the balls to say no, you all do whatever I'm not being part of that..

And where are the moral boundaries in telling your child it is ok to ignore school rules? Surely you are supposed to at least show some respect for the rules (however stupid some of them are!) not believe it is ok in any way to break them. The rules are there to protect the students not to make life difficult.

As a parent I would unleash at least a small amount of wrath upon my offspring regardless of my personal feelings because by sending my child to a specific school I chose to ensure my child adheres to the rules.

I find it interesting that you equate 'well brought up' with someone with more money.

You're very fixated on these rules - rules that don't seem to exist according to the OP. Do you know better or are you examples all dropping dead from heroin as we speak?

Owain_Moneysaver

pigpen wrote: »

And where are the moral boundaries in telling your child it is ok to ignore school rules? Surely you are supposed to at least show some respect for the rules (however stupid some of them are!) not believe it is ok in any way to break them. The rules are there to protect the students not to make life difficult.

It hasn't been shown that the boy's activies were in contravention of school rules.

Even if it's against school rules, and the rules can be shown to form part of a contract (doubtful), contracts in restraint of trade are extremely difficult to enforce, and if the teacher doesn't give his stock back she may have committed theft.

I wonder if fizzy and caffeinated drinks and chocolate is banned in the staffroom...

mountainofdebt

Well my sister used to collect conkers from my nan's garden when she was about 7 and sold them to classmates (usually the boys!) for 1p- 2p depending on size.

Of course she couldn't do it now because they've banned the playing of conkers due to health and safety

mirrorimage0

to be honest from the canteen staff side of view we have caught a few of the boys selling stuff and told them to take it outside as we wont have it going on in the canteen,
last year we had to lose a member of staff as money was down in the canteen and this was the reason why so we have all had to work so much harder because the boys wanted to buy and sell sweets and cakes. and personally i think its unfair thats someone should lose thier wage because boys want to earn a bit of money without actually working.


also when selling things in school what if some children have allergies or reactions to high colourings etc its not very fair i dont think on the children or the parents that have to deal with the side affects.

lynzpower

Maybe your son should hone his entrepreneurial spirit here with the tenner tycoons! http://www.startups.co.uk/pm-invites-tenner-tycoons-to-downing-street.html

pigpen

well if rules are there to be broken maybe laws are too... who knows what you think is ok in your houses.. I like rules and laws they serve useful purposes where I live.. and if you are telling your child they are clever breaking minor rules where do you draw the line?

This boy isn't clever or big or grown up or original... he is wrong and his parents should be telling him so... that is my point.

sassyblue

pigpen wrote: »

but she obviously thinks it is a clever thing to do for some reason.. I think it is silly and careless and would not be pleased about such behaviour from my children.

TBH so would l to a certain extent. I have my own small business and would be pleased that my son was thinking for himself and had the 'guts' to go out there and try it for himself.