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13 year old son in trouble for selling Pepsi at school

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  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    pigpen wrote: »
    Mine was threatened with expulsion for a similar offense (he was selling PC games from the £1 shop for £1.50) He took his 'business' off school property and all was fine.. then his 'friend' had the idea of selling weed.. made a killing selling to 12 and 13 y/o's.. in year 11 alone.. 5 were expelled, 2 died of drug overdoses after he branched out into heroin, and he is now in prison.. genius! Perfect business skills at 19 (which is all he is now with a conviction for dealing).

    Business is now a gateway drug to heroin! I've heard it all now.:rotfl:
  • pigpen
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    edited 30 March 2011 at 6:39PM
    Fang wrote: »
    Business is now a gateway drug to heroin! I've heard it all now.:rotfl:

    It isn't business though is it? Where are the taxes and accounts and paperwork?

    It is a young man being told it is ok to ignore school rules for financial gain... that really isn't a good thing..

    Where would he draw the line? Mum says it is ok to sell drinks.. so if I sell stolen goods/cigaretes/drugs/cars/houses that will be ok too.. It is the message he is getting that counts not what he is selling.
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  • busiscoming2
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    edited 30 March 2011 at 6:44PM
    pigpen wrote: »
    It isn't business though is it? Where are the taxes and accounts and paperwork?

    It is a young man being told it is ok to ignore school rules for financial gain... that really isn't a good thing..

    Where would he draw the line? Mum says it is ok to sell drinks.. so if I sell stolen goods/cigaretes/drugs/cars/houses that will be ok too.. It is the message he is getting that counts not what he is selling.


    Although I see where you are coming from, what about the kids that are buying the sweets and fizzy, will they automatically buy anything offered to them?

    No. I think any person bought up with a good sense moral boundaries knows where to draw the line.
  • pigpen
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    edited 30 March 2011 at 6:53PM
    No. I think any person bought up with a good sense moral boundaries knows where to draw the line.

    then you are possibly very naive.. a great proportion of the kids who bought drugs were from the more affluent families.. they had more 'free cash' .. parents were decent hard working people who had provided everything their sons desired.. gave them loads of pocket money so they could be 'independant' ... and 2 are now dead (one I know his parents are both solicitors)

    Morals don't come in to it with a group of adolescent boys more often than not.. very few would have the balls to say no, you all do whatever I'm not being part of that..

    And where are the moral boundaries in telling your child it is ok to ignore school rules? Surely you are supposed to at least show some respect for the rules (however stupid some of them are!) not believe it is ok in any way to break them. The rules are there to protect the students not to make life difficult.

    As a parent I would unleash at least a small amount of wrath upon my offspring regardless of my personal feelings because by sending my child to a specific school I chose to ensure my child adheres to the rules.
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  • sassyblue
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    pigpen wrote: »
    It isn't business though is it? Where are the taxes and accounts and paperwork?

    It is a young man being told it is ok to ignore school rules for financial gain... that really isn't a good thing..


    Where would he draw the line? Mum says it is ok to sell drinks.. so if I sell stolen goods/cigaretes/drugs/cars/houses that will be ok too.. It is the message he is getting that counts not what he is selling.

    The OP hasn't said she's going to tell him it's okay.

    Your story above is just your unfortunate experience and doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone..... Christ, l knew loads of kids growing up in school who could go to the shops across the road and bring back stuff to sell to the younger kids - even cigarettes back then!!

    Not saying it was right, mind!


    Happy moneysaving all.
  • pigpen
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    but she obviously thinks it is a clever thing to do for some reason.. I think it is silly and careless and would not be pleased about such behaviour from my children.

    Was it his dinner money he bought the stuff with?
    What does he need the extra cash for?

    I'm incredibly suspicious (or nosey, I'm cool with either lol) anyway and need to know the far end of every fart.. :p

    Anyhoo, I just wanted to add a different slant to the train of thinking... and no.. he really isn't original in his plans. We were all too poor at our school to be able to do such things.
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  • madbird_2
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    All I can say is good god! Can understand if its a school that bans drinks of said nature and they were confiscated but to have a go at parenting skills .....I was allowed fizzy drinks...Corona bottles of the milkman. Imagine the additives and additional colours I had in the 1970's!!

    For the record me and a friend sold doughnuts, cream or jam at school when we were 14/15. Got them frozen for Iceland, let them defrost during the morning and sold at lunch time. As this discussion has been taken to the extreme I am, never have been or never will be a drugs baron following my desire to 1) make a tiny bit of money and 2) eat the odd doughnut. Ok so I may have a doughnut problem now but I'm 29 week pregnant :D
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  • flippin36
    flippin36 Posts: 1,980 Forumite
    Take him out to buy small cartons of pure orange juice and flapjacks to sell on instead? Or spare biros, erasers and protractors? But to stay clear of buying or taking sweets from home to sell on.

    It's not quite the same as flogging wraps of heroin at the school gates, after all. One is illegal and one isn't.

    But it does put him at risk in the sense that people will know he has x amount of cash on him by the end of the day.

    My DD was tired of lending pens to people and not getting them back, so she bought a load from the poundshop and sold them individually for a profit. Lol. She said she had one returned because it wasn't working properly: "what shall I do?", I said she had to either offer a replacement or refund to which her face promptly dropped:( :D.
  • Teenie_D
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    pigpen wrote: »
    Mine was threatened with expulsion for a similar offense (he was selling PC games from the £1 shop for £1.50) He took his 'business' off school property and all was fine.. then his 'friend' had the idea of selling weed.. made a killing selling to 12 and 13 y/o's.. in year 11 alone.. 5 were expelled, 2 died of drug overdoses after he branched out into heroin, and he is now in prison.. genius! Perfect business skills at 19 (which is all he is now with a conviction for dealing).
    pigpen wrote: »
    Morals don't come in to it with a group of adolescent boys more often than not.. very few would have the balls to say no, you all do whatever I'm not being part of that..

    And where are the moral boundaries in telling your child it is ok to ignore school rules? Surely you are supposed to at least show some respect for the rules (however stupid some of them are!) not believe it is ok in any way to break them. The rules are there to protect the students not to make life difficult.

    As a parent I would unleash at least a small amount of wrath upon my offspring regardless of my personal feelings because by sending my child to a specific school I chose to ensure my child adheres to the rules.
    pigpen wrote: »
    but she obviously thinks it is a clever thing to do for some reason.. I think it is silly and careless and would not be pleased about such behaviour from my children.

    .

    LOL a bit of a contradiction there!
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  • pigpen
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    no.. It wasn't fine with me.. but the school were fine with it.. not contradictory you just misunderstood
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