Disabled badges, courts, fraud & lying parking attendants!

johnnyboy2011

Thank you all for your help, if I was to write a letter Horace, how do you recommend I word it considering the parking attendant telling me where to park? shall i bother to go on about it or will it not help?

Just trying to make sure the best option is done here, please stop arguing with each other! lol

taffy056

NeverAgain wrote: »

Of course they help the OP.

They demonstrate the offence he is accused of and the penalty he can expect.

They also demonstrate the offence is quite common, so he can assume the magistrates will have dealt with other badge fraudsters - unwitting or not.

I find it a little odd some MSE members are so keen to recommend another forum, but that's up to them.

He is not guilty of anything until he is taken to court and actually found guilty, you are assuming that he is guilty, and posting what he is to expect helps little when the mitigating circumstances could be enough.

And the reason why he is advised to go to pepipoo , is because a lot of the posters there can help, whereas a lot of posters on here do not know the ins and outs of these types of tickets, for example yourself !

NeverAgain_2

Taffy,

The OP is not a child, he's gone to the other place, as I mentioned several posts ago.

I also credit him with enough common sense to weigh up the worth of all the posts.

The initial signs over there weren't too promising since one of their big hitters didn't realise using a badge with the badge holder not present was an offence.

Yes, I'm taking the OP as guilty.

Why?

Because he has told us he is, he has told us he used the badge to park while his nan was not present, he has told the council the same thing.

Of course, it remains to be seen if he is prosecuted, and if he either pleads or is found guilty - as I also posted earlier.

But given that he's coughed the job 'in interview' so to speak, in the event of a prosecution, I think the only sensible advice is to plead guilty.

taffy056

As I said the mitigating circumstances can help here, and as the poster over said that could help in his case as he is actually not trying to cover anything, the council may not take it further, and by calling someone a big hitter, can you explain what that means to you ?

And as this will be my last post to you as this does not help at all, can you keep your response succinct please as I do have other things to do.

NeverAgain_2

...And as this will be my last post to you...

Thank goodness.

Succinct enough?

backfoot

NeverAgain wrote: »

...Doesn't do your much for your own credibility...

My credibility has got nothing to do with it.

The linked cases and blue badge rules speak for themselves.

Why are you wasting everyone's time sniping at me?

Stick to the questions raised in the thread.

Then we'd all think you were very credible.

I simply asked you to identify those people on the other Forum whose advice you think we should disregard. If you seek to discredit respected posters, as you did on this Forum in your early days,then you have to expect some challenge.

It is entirely relevant, because you put forward your solution to the OP and at the same time dismissed other legitimate advice that the OP might use Pepipoo. You saying that they talk guff isn't going to inspire confidence for him.

I do stick to the points raised in the thread, that being that you rubbished people that generally have a great deal to offer posters seeking defences to difficult situations that they face.

I suggest that it was you doing the sniping and I was questioning why?

Perhaps you should tell us exactly what your background is in terms of this sort of case, to be able to give such conclusive advice?

multiflorum

Just curious but when you showed the Blue Badge to the CEO did you explain it wasn't yours. Wondering if CEO assumed it was yours and advised where to park accordingly then someone has checked the the serial number with the issuing authority for some reason and found was issued to a lady ie your nan.

NeverAgain_2

...Wondering if CEO assumed it was yours and advised where to park accordingly...

That could fit because the 'display' face of the badge only has a name on, no pic.

My impression was the CEO told the OP he could not park legally in a loading bay, but he could park legally further up the street.

The CEO left it to the OP to work out if he should pay or use the badge.

Coupon-mad

multiflorum wrote: »

Just curious but when you showed the Blue Badge to the CEO did you explain it wasn't yours. Wondering if CEO assumed it was yours and advised where to park accordingly then someone has checked the the serial number with the issuing authority for some reason and found was issued to a lady ie your nan.

That's what I thought too. Once he had parked then the CEO could check the serial number in the usual way and then realised he was using a lady's badge fraudulently.

Forgive me but I thought everyone knew you cannot use someone else's Blue Badge and I am amazed at the OP's vociferous approach to legit Council letters referring to his breaking the law.

As the the PCN that's a different matter and may well be able to be appealed successfully now that he has posted on pepipoo. Posters there have asked him to keep the PCN and the criminal offence on separate threads.

Sirdan

Coupon-mad wrote: »

That's what I thought too. Once he had parked then the CEO could check the serial number in the usual way and then realised he was using a lady's badge fraudulently.

Forgive me but I thought everyone knew you cannot use someone else's Blue Badge and I am amazed at the OP's vociferous approach to legit Council letters referring to his breaking the law.

As the the PCN that's a different matter and may well be able to be appealed successfully now that he has posted on pepipoo. Posters there have asked him to keep the PCN and the criminal offence on separate threads.

I'm not the least bit amazed ..I suspect that a number of requests for help where the OP is blatantly in the wrong are in fact fairy tales posted by PPCs.
They are no doubt trying to discredit this forum by generating examples that demonstrate that some "advisors" who regularly post are prepared to side with the OP regardless of the rights / wrongs of the incident in question.
Simple formula to follow :-

If you break the law pay the fine / penalty (provided it is correctly issued) and don't do it again.

Ignore all speculative invoices from PPCs but if you are actually in the wrong and know you are (morally that is not legally) then don't do it again !!

Open to interpretation of course .
Clipping the line of the bay ..be more careful .
Parking deliberately across two bays so no one can park next to you ..you get what you deserve (and I don't mean a PPC invoice)
Parking needlessly in a disabled bay ..you should be ashamed of yourself.
Parking in a parent child space ..mmm..tricky ..I park in them after 11pm on principal.:rotfl:

SIMPLES.