i dont know what to do! Please help if you can!

pavlovs_dog

i dont think you can just turn up and see someone, i think you need to make an appointment.

good luck, and keep us posted :grouphug:

Tran

OK, this is a bit hazy and off the top of my head....

Around 1982 the law changed. Prior to this if you had been born in the UK or british territory then you could get a british passport regardless of your parent & grandparents nationality. This is partly because people from dependent territories (ghana, west africa for example) could come over here, give birth and the kids would be entitled to british citizenship. I know this happened regularly - trust me! The law changed around 1982, my cynical side says it was because they realised that once Hong Kong was handed over to the chinese, the UK could be flooded with Hong Kong born citizens demanding to be allowed to settle in the UK just before China took over (everyone remember the scare stories just prior to hand-over??). The law changed so that just because you were born in a UK territory did not automatically make you a British citizen WITH AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO SETTLE IN MAINLAND UK. After 1982 you had to show your right to be british by your parents (&/or grandparents) nationality. I think this is maybe where the problem is. You were born close to when the law changed and this is maybe the problem as i am guessing either your parents and/or your partner's parents are not British citizens by birth (or ARE british citizens but were born in a place that was a dependent British territory at the time of THEIR birth- e.g. jamaica).

Clear as mud???

I probably haven't expressed it clearly but i *think* this is kinda where the passport people are coming from.

P.S. this is coming from someone who was born prior to 1982 with a mother who deliberately flew to the UK heavily pregnant to gave birth in the UK so i could get a UK passport.

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

Yep - that is what i meant about the 1982 thing - spot on, thank you! - but if they gave British citizenship (unristricted might i add) after the change of law to her dad and the fact they made tighter bounderies in 1982, (therefore you shouldnt really have been given full citizenship if you werent compliant). wouldnt that all in theory make it easier for me to get her a passport?

This is why i cant get my head around it.

i'm not sure if you see where i am coming from as it might sound like nonesense - i do appologise for my posts!

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

Does that mean then that my daughter is not actually entitled to British citizenship because one of her grandparents isn't british?

All sounds mad to me!

Nicki

my-gorgeous-ellie-belle

Do you know your full date of birth, and were you born in England? If so, you can apply for your birth certificate from the Registry of Births Deaths and Marriage (and I think you can do this online now for a fee) That will give you your mother's full name and the place of her birth. You can get the same info about your dad from the birth cert provided he is named, but I guess that you may be able to get more info from your dad about this as you are still in touch. That should be enough to satisfy the Passport Office, particularly if your mum and dad were both born in England. You shouldn't need their passport nos and their addresses - after all they may never have applied for passports or might be dead, and in both those circs they would be able to process the application.

Your posts are just a little confusing because you start off by saying that the PO wants your daughter's grandparents' details, but later you say they want your grandparents' details too - ie your daughters great grandparents. That seems very unlikely to be true, so I would advise you to check again wiht the PO that you have inderstood correctly as this info will be more difficult, though not impossilble to find

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

oops sorry - nothing to do with MY grandparents, i do appologise!

Tran

Nicki wrote:

my-gorgeous-ellie-belle

Do you know your full date of birth, and were you born in England? If so, you can apply for your birth certificate from the Registry of Births Deaths and Marriage (and I think you can do this online now for a fee) That will give you your mother's full name and the place of her birth. You can get the same info about your dad from the birth cert provided he is named, but I guess that you may be able to get more info from your dad about this as you are still in touch. That should be enough to satisfy the Passport Office, particularly if your mum and dad were both born in England.

No. Only if they are BOTH born in England, are british citizens AND have a right to live here (not overseas british passport holders with no right to residence in the UK). I suspect that it is actually more to do with her partner's parents because of the law on citizenship prior to 1/1/83. But they are probably just asking for this info from both sides of the family.

Tran

check your Pm's

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

Tran - That bit about it being because of her dads situation.

That crossed my mind but looking back to when i was on the phone to them i never even mentioned her dad's side of it - my query was only that i have no knowledge of my mother whatsoever. Looking at it now i am going to have even more trouble than i origionally thought as that whole side of it is going to be hell to deal with - there must be a way that she can heve a passport though otherwise that would be mad - there would be loads and loads of people not entitled. I just really need to fight this case as much as possible - looks like i will prob have to head to the solicitors if the letter to the passport office doesnt somehow persuade them. Somehow i dont think i will be getting to China for May 2007.:mad:

Tran

when your partner got british citizenship, was HIS parents married/divorced? i.e. was it a situation where your partner and his mum was over here but his father was in jamaica?